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?Had a new starter and new battery put on my 1999 Chevy Tahoe.. we by it starts sometimes and sometime it don't..what could the problem be


I'm assuming just by the fact you had a new battery and new starter that sometimes when you turn the key to the start position , nothing happens . Is your vehicle a automatic transmission ? When it doesn't start have checked for battery voltage at the starter solenoid S terminal ? Is there B+ voltage at pins 30 & 86 for the starter relay ? Pin 86 while cranking the engine or trying to crank the engine over . Pin 30 check with key on . Try moving gear selector to neutral . Videos on youtube for basic automotive electrical testing . How to voltage drop test starter motor circuit Find a wiring diagram at www.bbbind.com
Starting System Circuit Description
Voltage is applied at all times to the ignition switch from the IGN A fuse 6 through CKT 242 (RED). When the ignition switch is turned to the START position, voltage is applied to the CRANK fuse 8 through CKT 5 (YEL). From the CRANK fuse 8, voltage is either applied to the clutch pedal position switch (M/T) or the transmission range switch (A/T) through CKT 806 (PPL). When either the clutch is disengaged (M/T) or the transmission is in park or neutral (A/T), voltage is applied to the coil of the starter relay through CKT 1035 (PPL/WHT). Since the starter relay is permanently grounded at ground G105 through CKT 150 (BLK), the starter relay energizes.
Voltage is applied at all times to the starter relay contacts from IGN A fuse 6 through CKT 242 (RED). When the starter relay energizes, the starter relay contacts close, and voltage is applied to the starter motor solenoid. Since the starter motor solenoid is permanently case grounded, the starter motor solenoid will energize two coils. The pull-in winding coil energizes in order to pull the starter motor solenoid contacts closed. When the contacts close, a plunger on the contacts causes the pull-in winding coil circuit to open. The hold-in winding coil then holds the starter motor solenoid contacts closed. Voltage is then applied to the starter motor from the battery through CKT 1 (BLK) and the closed contacts of the starter motor solenoid. Since the starter motor is also permanently case grounded, the starter motor will run until the ignition switch is moved out of the START position. When this happens, a spring in the starter motor solenoid moves the starter motor solenoid contacts and the plunger back to the rest position.

Jan 07, 2017 | 1999 Chevrolet Tahoe

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Starter motor symptoms, faults and fixes


<p><b><u><span>Symptoms, faults and fixes associated with starter motors:-</span></u></b><br /> <p><b><u><span><br /></span></u></b><br /> <p><b><u><span>Dead </span></u></b><br /> <ul> <li><span>Check battery condition and cable connections to terminals</span></li> <li><span>Sticky solenoid due to corrosion or glued up lubricant and dirt </span><span><span><span> </span></span></span><span>- dismantle and rub clean with some emery paper</span></li> <li><span>Worn starter motor armature brushe</span><span><span><span> </span></span></span><span>- strike motor body with end of a piece of timber whilst cranking; the jolt may encourage enough contact to get the starter motor running for long enough for ignition to occur.</span><span><span> </span></span></li> <li><span>For a permanent fix dismantle the starter motor and replace the carbon brushes.</span></li> <li><span>Corrosion in the starter motor body between the steel jacket and alloy gear casing </span><span>- insert self tapping screw between the two parts to bridge the corrosion laye</span></li> <li><span> For a permanent fix remove motor and strip down and then wire brush components back to the metal and then reassemble.<span> </span>Painting the outside of the newly reassembled motor to keep dirt and water at bay is a good idea, wrapping insulation tape over the joins also keeps corrosion at bay.</span><span> </span></li></ul><b><u><span>'Click, click, click' ...occasional start</span></u></b><br /> <ul> <li><span>Check battery condition and cable connections to terminals</span></li> <li><span>Worn contact plates in solenoid failing to provide high current to energize the starter motor winding </span><span><span><span> </span></span></span><span>- dismantle solenoid and replace copper contact plates and plunger ring (readily available as an inexpensive (&lt;$10) overhaul kit.</span></li></ul> <p><b><u><span>'Wahr, wahr, wahhrr'...laboured motor</span></u></b><br /> <ul> <li><span>Worn bronze bearings on the ends of the starter motor are allowing the motor core to run off centre and grind against the surrounding field magnets on the inside of the motor body </span><span><span><span> </span></span></span><span>- dismantle motor and check that outside edges of the motor core are looking polished. If so, replace the bronze bearings (inexpensive fix)</span></li> <li><span>Over-drawing motor - high current is being drawn but this is not translated into effective turning effort by the motor.<span> </span>The field magnet windings have begun to short out, probably as a result of age or, more likely, through over use in trying to start a poorly igniting engine.<span> </span></span><span>With prolonged use the field windings get very hot and eventually burn off the insulation between the individual wires in the windings creating a short </span><span>- replace/ exchange the starter motor as the field windings of the stator magnets on the motor body are fried and beyond repair</span><span> </span></li></ul> <p><b><u><span>'Wheeeeeeee' ..no start</span></u></b><br /> <ul> <li><span>Although engaged fully with the flywheel a slipping pinion gear clutch means that the motor is ineffectual at turning the engine over</span><span><span><span> </span></span></span><span>- remove the starter motor and replace the pinion gear on the end of the starter motor shaft</span><span> </span></li></ul> <p><b><u><span>Lottery start...occasional no start</span></u></b><br /> <ul> <li><span>The motor occasionally refuses to start to turn first time and has a defined rhythmic pulse when turning over - this is due to either burnt out armature coil or the contact face of the armature has become badly pitted or has worn off centre causing the brush to miss making contact </span><span>-<span> </span></span><span>replace brushes and ensure brush passages allow free movement </span><span><span><span> </span></span></span><span>- replace/ exchange the starter motor as armature contact area and windings are beyond repair.</span></li></ul> <p><span> </span><br />

on Jul 22, 2011 | Mercedes-Benz E-Class Cars & Trucks

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Can't start engine, battery is good and all you here is a clicking sound?


The contacts in the starter motor solenoid are worn, the clicking that you can hear is the solenoid being pulled in, but not making contact to allow the main battery voltage/current from getting to the starter motor. Their are 2 things you can do to get you out of trouble if you are stuck in a place and no assistance is available.

Rock the car back and forward whilst in gear, stop and try again.

Tap the side of the starter motor cover with a piece of wood or soft hammer. This will wiggle the contacts and allow for starting.

These may get the car up and running, but ultimately the contacts will have to be replace.This job is usually not difficult or expensive, and is the first thing to check and replace, before replacing the whole starter motor. It is a much more cheaper option then replacing the starter motor assembly.

If you can find the starter motor, the solenoid is the small round or triangle box on top or to the side of the starter motor, usually with two small wires going to it.


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on Jan 24, 2011 | Toyota Land Cruiser Cars & Trucks

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Where is wipers control module located on 1995 gran marquis


This is usually a contact inside the wiper motor. Some are accessible and some require replacing the wiper motor. The inside of the wiper motor jumps into a derailer which breaks the electric contact that keeps the motor turning. Once the motor cycles, it parks in the down position.

The insides of the wiper motor are suppose to coast without power into the Park position.

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Blower motor works when i hit a bump, whats wrong


Blower motor faulty, or faulty blower motor switch. 90% sure its a blower motor that has bad brushes. Brushes are what sends voltage from the wires to the shaft, which creates a magnetic field that will make the shaft want to turn. The brushes are in constant contact with the contacts on the blower shaft. Over time, being in constant contact with a moving part, the brushes will wear down untill there is nothing left but the springs that hold them in place. The springs don't contact the shaft fully, but can run the motor once its givin a kickstart. A bump is doing just that, giving your blower motor a kickstart to run. A loose connector will do this but its very uncommon for a connector to just come loose on its own. A loose connector will intermittenly connect when jostled, bumped, or wiggled.

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Car won't start, battery is good and all you here is a clicing Noise?


<span>The contacts in the starter <a href="/#">motor</a> solenoid are worn, the clicking that you can hear is the solenoid being pulled in, but not making contact to allow the main battery voltage/current from getting to the starter motor. Their are 2 things you can do to get you out of trouble, if you are stuck somewhere and cant get going.<br /><br />Rock the <a href="/#">car</a> back and forward whilst in gear, stop and try again.<br /><br />Tap the side of the starter motor cover with a piece of wood or soft hammer. This will wiggle the contacts and allow for starting.<br /><br />These may get the car up and running, but ultimately the contacts will have to be replace.<br /><br />If you can find the starter motor, the solenoid is the small round or triangle box on top or to the side of the starter motor, usually with two small wires going to it.</span><br /> <span></span> <br /> <span>This is not a big or usually an expensive job to replace. Replace the contacts before replacing the starter motor, a lot cheaper alternative.</span>

on Jan 24, 2011 | 2000 Toyota Land Cruiser

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1994 Dodge Dakota Sport Standard Cab Pickup automatic, i have a new battery and when i turn the key everything turns on and you hear a part of the motor but it wont start, what should i look for?


Sometimes when fitting a new battery the terminals are not on really tight. First check that the contact face of the battery terminal cable clamps are bright metal. Clamp securely so that there is no movement between cable and terminal. Next check the condition of the earth return strap from the engine back to the vehicle's frame. Again ensure there is good fresh metal to metal contact and the it is secured firmly. Next check the connection on the starter motor...clean and secure again. If still no joy then it is time to check the starter motor. The most frequent fault in starter motors are worn striker contacts. When the solenoid is engaged is moves the starter motor armature forward to engage with the drive teeth on the edge of the fly wheel. At the point of engagement the electrical contacts of the motor coil core make contact with the copper striker plates. When they become worn then contact is lost. Make a note of the make and model of the starter motor and purchase a striker plate refurb. fit (about $10 from dealer or Autozone etc). disconnect the electrical cables to the solenoid and motor, remove the two securing bolts that hold the motor to the flywheel casing and remove the motor assembly. Undo the motor end retaining bolts and examine the striker plates. Change them one at a time, I say this as it is important that the order of insulation washers and nuts are in the correct order when reassembled - using the un-touched plate as a reference helps in this. Clean, but do not lubricate the interior of the motor - oil only serves to attract grime. Reassemble and reinstall the the motor assembly. Again ensure the electrical supply cables are clean and attached firmly.

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Wiper arms do return to home position


there is a part an the wiper motor called a park switch that can be replaced but i dont recommed it i would replace the whole wiper moter to start with u will be money ahead......hope it helps

Nov 23, 2010 | 1999 Mercury Grand Marquis

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Won't start. not a battery problem. i think my motor is bad. how much does a motor usually cost?


You are looking at region of $150 and labour on top. I am putting a tip together on starters in general that I include herein. When you get your motor off it could be helpful and save you some money in the process:-

Dead...? Sticky solenoid due to corrosion or glued up lubricant and dirt ? dismantle and rub clean with some emery paper. Worn starter motor armature brushes ? strike motor body with end of a piece of timber whilst cranking; the jolt may encourage enough contact to get the starter motor running for long enough for ignition to occur. ? For a permanent fix dismantle the starter motor and replace the carbon brushes. Corrosion in the starter motor body between the steel jacket and aluminium gear casting.? insert self tapping screw between the two parts to bridge the corrosion? For a permanent fix remove motor and strip down and wire brush components back to the metal and then reassemble.

Click, click, click ...occasional start Worn contact plates in solenoid failing to provide high current to energize the starter motor windings? dismantle solenoid and replace copper contact plates and plunger ring (readily available as an inexpensive overhaul kit).

Wahr, wahr, warh...laboured motor Worn bronze bearings on the ends of the starter motor are allowing the armature to run off centre and grind against the surrounding field magnets on the inside of the motor body? dismantle motor and replace the bronze bearings (inexpensive fix). Over-drawing motor - high current is drawn but this is not translated into effective turning effort by the motor. The field magnet windings have begun to short out, probably as a result of age or through over use in constantly trying to start a poorly igniting engine ? replace/ exchange the starter motor as the field windings of the stator magnets on the motor body are fried and beyond repair. Wheeeeeeee ..no start Although engaged fully with the flywheel a slipping pinion gear clutch means that the motor is ineffectual at turning the engine over ? remove the starter motor and replace the pinion gear on the end of the starter motor shaft


Lottery start...occasional no start

  • The motor occasionally refuses to turn first time and has a defined rhythmic pulse when turning over - this is due to either burnt out armature coil or the contact face of the armature has become badly pitted causing the brush to miss making contact.

? - replace/ exchange the starter motor as armature windings are beyond repair.



Sep 26, 2010 | 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee

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Loud click from starter, starter wont turn.


Copper heavy duty contacts either side of starter motor armature within the motor body have worn to nothing and so no contact. No contact means no electricity to the starter motor coils means no turn over. You can buy a kit to replace the copper contacts for less than $10. It will take about 45 minutes to remove, clean, strip, replace and refit the starter motor.

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