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Car was locked with "clicker", lost the clicker, extra key opens doors but engine won't start due to theft deterrent system. Can the system be over ridden?

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That one your going to have to goto the dealer for. I think the alarm you have is after market, so you will probably have to if them check it.

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2003 cadillac cts turn key on and a message comes up that says starter disabled remove key what does this mean and how to repair , thanks


STARTING DISABLED REMOVE KEY
Refer to Theft Systems Description and Operation in Theft Deterrent

STARTING DISABLED REMOVE KEY
The radio illuminates the STARTING DISABLED REMOVE KEY message when the VTD system has disabled the starting system. The radio receives a message from the theft deterrent control module via the serial data circuit requesting illumination.

Your best bet have it towed to a qualified repair shop .
The vehicle theft deterrent (VTD) system functions are provided by the theft deterrent control module. When an ignition key is inserted into the ignition lock cylinder and the ignition is switched ON, the transponder embedded in the head of the key is energized by the exciter coils surrounding the ignition lock cylinder. The energized transponder transmits a signal that contains its unique value, which is received by the theft deterrent control module. The theft deterrent control module then compares this value to a value stored in memory, learned key code. If the value is correct the theft deterrent control module sends a random generated number to the transponder, this is called a challenge. Both the transponder and the theft deterrent control module perform a calculation on the challenge, if the calculations match the theft deterrent control module sends the fuel continue password via the serial data circuit to the Engine control module (ECM). If either the transponders unique value or the calculation to the challenge is incorrect the theft deterrent control module will send the fuel disable password to the ECM via the serial data circuit. The components of the VTD system are as follows:
• Theft deterrent control module
• Engine control module (ECM)
• Ignition key (Transponder)
• Ignition lock cylinder
• Security indicator

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Start 2003 pont. Grand prix without key


Without a key with anti-theft transponder inside your not starting anything . Your best bet call mobile lock smith . Anti-theft system ,software programmed into all module's involved in starting the vehicle .
The vehicle theft deterrent (VTD) system functions are provided by the theft deterrent control module. The VTD system prevents vehicle operation if a learned Passkey III (PK3) ignition key is not used to start the vehicle. Vehicles with steering column mounted ignition switches have the exciter integral with the theft deterrent control module which is located within the steering column. Vehicles with instrument panel mounted ignition switches have exciter modules separate from the theft deterrent control module with the vehicle wiring harness connecting the two. The PK3 key has a transponder embedded in the plastic head of the key. The exciter is an antenna which is made up of wire coils which surround the ignition lock cylinder. The PCM enables engine starting when it receives a learned fuel enable signal from the theft deterrent control module. The components of the VTD system are as follows:

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How do you reset the alarm system on a 98 olds silhouette after it triggers without the remote entry


Theft Deterrent Arm/Disarm Modes
Important: Although mode 2 provides increased security, the content theft deterrent system disarms only by pressing unlock on the keyless entry transmitter. This can pose a problem if the keyless entry transmitter is damaged, lost, or inoperative for any reason while you attempt to disarm the content theft deterrent system.
Mode 1: The system arms when you lock the doors with the keyless entry transmitter. The system disarms when you unlock the left front, right front, or liftgate door with the key or the keyless entry transmitter. The system does not arm when you lock the doors with a power door lock switch.

Mode 2: The system arms when you lock the doors with the keyless entry transmitter. The system disarms when you unlock the doors with the keyless entry transmitter. The system does not disarm when you unlock the doors with the key.

Mode 3: The system arms when you lock the doors using a power door lock switch or the keyless entry transmitter. The system disarms when you unlock the left front, right front, or liftgate door with the key or the keyless entry transmitter.
Changing the Feature Customization Modes
  1. Turn off the IP dimmer switch.
  2. Turn the ignition switch to the LOCK position.
  3. Remove the BCM PRGRM fuse.
  4. Turn the ignition switch to the ACC position. The BCM flashes the fasten belts indicator and sounds the chime 4 times, which indicates that BCM type 4 is installed on the vehicle. At this point, the BCM has entered the feature customization mode.
  5. In order to change the theft deterrent/shock sensor mode, turn the headlamp switch from OFF to PARK and back to OFF.
  6. The BCM flashes the fasten belts indicator and sounds the chime a number of times equivalent to the theft deterrent/shock sensor mode. A transition past mode 4 repeats the sequence starting with mode 1.
  7. Complete the following steps in order to change the theft deterrent arm/disarm mode:
6.1.
Insert the key in the left front, right front, or liftgate door lock cylinder.


6.2.
Rotate the key from the center to the unlock position.


6.3.
Press the horn button on the remote keyless entry transmitter.


6.4.
Count the number of chimes that you hear. The number of chimes tells you which mode you have set.


6.5.
Press the horn button again in order to change the mode. Continue to press the button until you hear the number of chimes that indicates the mode that you want.


6.6.
Turn the key back to the center position and remove the key from the door key cylinder.

In order to exit and save the current feature customization modes use the following procedure:

  1. Turn the ignition switch to the LOCK position.
  2. Reinstall the BCM PRGRM fuse.
If you are unable to change locking modes Theft Deterrent System Feature Customization Inoperative

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Changed steering column n won't atrt


Where is the ignition switch at , on the steering column ? Did you transfer the theft deterrent control module from the old column to the new one ? Do you have any lights lit on the dash , SECURITY ? Your car has a anti-theft system , the key has a transponder pellet imbedded in the head of it . Behind the plastic cover of the steering column ,around the ignition lock cylinder is the theft deterrent control module an antenna !
The vehicle theft deterrent (VTD) system functions are provided by the theft deterrent control module. The VTD system prevents vehicle operation if a valid (learned) transponder PASS-Key?®III (PK3) ignition key is not used to start the vehicle. The theft deterrent control module has an exciter that is part of the theft deterrent control module as an assembly. The PK3 key has a transponder embedded in the plastic head of the key. The exciter is an antenna which is made up of wire coils which surround the ignition lock cylinder. The PCM enables the engines starter and fuel delivery system when it receives a valid (learned) password from the theft deterrent control module via the class 2 serial data circuit. The components of the VTD system are as follows:

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I need to get passed the anti theft reset to get my 2000 cad.devlle.going, just bought it, I need help to locate fuse boxes, would like to trade somebody for a sharp running truck or car straight across,...


One is under the hood in the engine compartment an Rear Fuse Block
Left rear of the passenger compartment, under the rear seat ! There are a couple of fuse's , but they power up the ignition an the PCM ,so you can't pull those ! Beside that if the PCM does not get a fuel enable signal from the anti-theft module the vehicle won't start . You can't just disable thing's on this vehicle ! If you have security light on steady or flashing you need to take it to someone who has a diagnostic scan tool that can check DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes ! A code reader can not access these type codes !
Vehicle Theft Deterrent (VTD)Circuit Description
(VTD) Theft Deterrent System Components
Ignition Key (Transponder) The ignition key for the (VTD) theft deterrent system is a typical ignition key with a transponder pellet located in the plastic end of the key. The ignition key transponder value is used to determine if a valid ignition key is being used to start the vehicle, there are approximately three trillion different transponder values available. This vehicle has two types of ignition keys.
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Master key (black plastic end) which can start the vehicle and lock/unlock all door locks, all storage compartments and the rear compartment lid lock.


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Valet key (gray plastic end) which can start the vehicle and unlock/lock all doors, but can not unlock/lock the storage compartments, or rear compartment lid lock.

Important: The transponder values are not readable and can not be serviced separately.
Theft Deterrent Module The theft deterrent module contains the software for controlling the VTD System. The theft deterrent module uses the following inputs and outputs to control the VTD system.
Inputs ?€¢
Battery voltage from the underhood fuse block PCM/BATT fuse, circuit 240 (ORN).


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Ignition start voltage from the ignition switch, circuit 1390 (WHT).


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Ground, circuit 450 (BLK).
Outputs Password exchange with the PCM (fuel enable), class 2 message circuit 1807 (PPL).
Powertrain Control Module (PCM) The PCM verifies that the passwords received from the theft deterrent module via the class 2 serial data line are valid. If a password is invalid the PCM disables the fuel delivery system. If the password is valid the PCM enables the fuel delivery system.
Starter Relay The starter relay is controlled by the PCM module via class 2 serial data (CKT 1807 PPL). If the theft deterrent module measures the correct transponder value, the PCM module switches the starter enable control (CKT 447 YEL) to ground. The relay is energized if the ignition switch is in the START position and the gear selector is in the PARK or NEUTRAL positions.

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Theft deterrent system


this is for acura but it cant hurt to try it...
Open hood ensure new battery is disconnected.
Open main fuse panel cover under hood and remove horn relay (so you don't have to listen to the horn).
Use the key to lock the drivers door.
Connect the positive battery terminal.
Connect the negative battery terminal (security system will now activate, hazards lights will flash and horn would be going off if the relay was not removed).
Use the key to unlock the drivers door.
Get in, close drivers door.
Use the key to start the engine.
Security system will deactivate.
Get out of vehicle, reinstall horn relay, replace fuse panel cover, close hood.

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Why won't my 2003 cadillac cts start with the new theft deterrent module?


there is one wyre you can cut coming from the computer check itrenet taht will disable antitheft everything else will work properly that will let you no if it is the anti theft

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Lose tried to steal my 20005 buick rainer .iignition is missing took off plastic cover .can turn ignition to start but scurty light is on won,t start .there is no chip in key what can i do to start it?


Your vehicle is equipped with the Passlock theft-deterrent system. Passlock® is a passive theft-deterrent system that enables fuel if the ignition lock cylinder is turned with a valid key. If a correct key is not used or the ignition lock cylinder is tampered with, the fuel system is disabled and the vehicle will not start.

During normal operation, the security light will turn off approximately five seconds after the key is turned to RUN.
- If the engine stalls and the security light flashes, wait about 10 minutes until the light stops flashing before trying to restart the engine. Remember to release the key from START as soon as the engine starts.
- If the engine does not start after three tries, the vehicle needs service.
- If the engine is running and the security light comes on, you will be able to restart the engine if you turn the engine off. However, your Passlock® system is not working properly and must be serviced by your dealer. Your vehicle is not protected by Passlock® at this time. You may also want to check the fuse. See Fuses and Circuit Breakers on page 5-93 in the Owners Manual.

Testing the Alarm
The alarm can be tested by following these steps:
1. From inside the vehicle, lower the driver's window and open the driver's door.
2. Activate the system by locking the doors with the power door lock switch while the door is open, or with the remote keyless entry transmitter.
3. Get out of the vehicle, close the door and wait for the security light to go out.
4. Then reach in through the window, unlock the door with the manual door lock and open the door. This should set off the alarm.

When the alarm is set the power door unlock switch is not operational. If the alarm does not sound when it should but the headlamps flash, check to see if the horn works. The horn fuse may be blown.

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My dad owns a 2003 CTS. While driving the car he gets the displayed message "starting disabled remove key" and the car shuts off. He puts the car in NEUTRAL and WITHOUT removing the key, starts the car...


STARTING DISABLED REMOVE KEY
Refer to Theft Systems Description and Operation in Theft Deterrent

STARTING DISABLED REMOVE KEY
The radio illuminates the STARTING DISABLED REMOVE KEY message when the VTD system has disabled the starting system. The radio receives a message from the theft deterrent control module via the serial data circuit requesting illumination.

Your best bet ,take it to Cadillac dealer and have it checked . Could have DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes
DTC B1015
DTC B1016
DTC B3031
DTC B3055
DTC B3060
DTC B3090
DTC B3935
DTC B3976
DTC P1629
DTC P1630
DTC P1631

The theft deterrent module or the insturment cluster or the ECM is not seeing correct info.
The vehicle theft deterrent (VTD) system functions are provided by the theft deterrent control module. When an ignition key is inserted into the ignition lock cylinder and the ignition is switched ON, the transponder embedded in the head of the key is energized by the exciter coils surrounding the ignition lock cylinder. The energized transponder transmits a signal that contains its unique value, which is received by the theft deterrent control module. The theft deterrent control module then compares this value to a value stored in memory, learned key code. If the value is correct the theft deterrent control module sends a random generated number to the transponder, this is called a challenge. Both the transponder and the theft deterrent control module perform a calculation on the challenge, if the calculations match the theft deterrent control module sends the fuel continue password via the serial data circuit to the Engine control module (ECM). If either the transponders unique value or the calculation to the challenge is incorrect the theft deterrent control module will send the fuel disable password to the ECM via the serial data circuit. The components of the VTD system are as follows:
• Theft deterrent control module
• Engine control module (ECM)
• Ignition key (Transponder)
• Ignition lock cylinder
• Security indicator

Aug 08, 2017 | 2004 Cadillac CTS

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