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Hi ! What's the problem , I have 407 2004 and when I stop the car very fast and try to go forward it dosn't do it at directly when I push the "cas spedal"?

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    Great answer !

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Huh?

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  • Wayne Fraser Oct 07, 2010

    Your definition of the problem is nery sketchy . Don't understand the question .

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