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Instrument cluster failure causes fuse #29 to blow.

My failure includes all the dash instruments (odometer, speedometer, gauges and such) and also causes my overdrive button to not work on the automatic gear shift handle. I can replace the fuse and it will work for a while. Can anyone shed some light as to what might be causing this failiure?

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  • kscanada May 26, 2008

    One more comment about my issue....the instrument cluster lights stay on.

  • calvinknight Dec 20, 2008

    I have the identical problem with a 98 Ford Expedition. Instrument cluster does not work. Instrument lights stay on. Apparently blows a fuse. Does anyone know how to fix this?



    Thanks

  • Anonymous Mar 17, 2014

    all the gauges light up but wont work an some lights on dash fuse it comes back to 21(under dash) not getting power

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Ok it could be quite simple
lets look at wrong size fuse
example 15 and you need a 25 fuse
also if you did any work on vehicle its quite possible that you grounded something out wrong retrace your work and fix accordingly
bad cluster relay is another problem that would cause these problems

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While driving gauges go out no tach or seedometer. vehicle still runs. if i turn light on then off gauges start working again help

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I have a 1997 ford crown victoria and all the gaudges are out but the car still drives what is my solution and i have checked my fuses so i cant figure out what the problem is

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Sorry but it's not a fuse problem . There is not a fuse just for the speedometer . The microprocessor inside the instrument cluster determines where the speedometer needle points , just like the fuel gauge , tachometer etc... Having the vehicle checked for DTC'S would be the proper step to take .
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The vehicle speed signal is generated by the rear anti-lock brake sensor and sent to the 4-wheel anti-lock brake system (4WABS) module. The 4WABS module sends the vehicle speed signal via circuit 679 (GY/BK) to all systems which require a vehicle speed signal input.
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  • Speedometer.
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No where in this factory diagnostic step does it say to check a fuse !

PINPOINT TEST E: THE SPEEDOMETER/ODOMETER IS INOPERATIVE CONDITIONS DETAILS/RESULTS/ACTIONS E1 CHECK THE VOLTAGE TO THE INSTRUMENT CLUSTER
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Measure the voltage between instrument cluster C288-7, circuit 1001 (WH/YE), and ground.
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Yes GO to E2 .

No REPAIR circuit 1001 (WH/YE). TEST the system for normal operation.
E2 CHECK THE INSTRUMENT CLUSTER PRINTED CIRCUIT
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NOTE: Measurements must be made to the speedometer gauge pins that are inside the instrument cluster printed circuit clips.
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  • Are the resistances less than 1 ohm?
Yes GO to E3 .

No INSTALL a new instrument cluster printed circuit. REFER to Instrument Cluster Printed Circuit . TEST the system for normal operation.
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Speedometer The instrument cluster receives the vehicle speed sensor (VSS) signal from the powertrain control module (PCM) through the standard corporate protocol (SCP) communication network. The instrument cluster monitors the VSS input from the PCM and commands the speedometer with a corresponding movement of the pointer.
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No
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No
GO to L4 . L3 MONITOR THE INTEGRATED CIRCUIT DISPLAYS
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Yes
GO to L4 .

No
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Yes
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No
The system is operating correctly at this time. The concern may have been caused by a loose or corroded connector. CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. There isn't a fuse just for the speedometer , there are four fuse for the whole instrument cluster . If one of these fuse's were burnt you would have more then just the speedometer not working ! You need to have a scan tool to find out what is up ! you could need a new cluster ! Is the check engine light on ? if not wouldn't think vehicle speed sensor bad , besides speed info for speedometer PCM uses for transmission shift points ! Good luck ,hope this helps !

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Step
Action
Value(s)
Yes
No
Important: A short to ground will cause an open fuse(s). Before performing this diagnostic procedure, inspect the fuse(s) for an open.
1
Did you perform the Instrument Cluster System Check?
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Go to Step 2
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2
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3
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--
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