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Motor not starting

I installed a new trans. had to remove motor from vehicle to do so. Upon installation, when I turn the key the starter engages, and engine does not turn over. My battery is charged. when not starting, bat is at 12.2 volts. when it tries to start, bat goes to 2 volts. I can hear the starter engage on the flywheel, but no rotation. I can rotate the engine using a socket on the front pulley. This car has an auto trans. I have tried to shift into neutral, but same issue occurs.

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Double check all of your ground wires from the battery to the engine and body. Also have the battery checked. Even if the starter was bad, the voltage while cranking should not drop down to 2 volts.

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Starter Testing Starting System Voltage Drop Tests NOTE: The battery must be in good condition and fully charged prior to performing this test.
There are three area of the starter motor circuits that voltage drop test can be performed on. These include:
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  • The starter ground circuit
  • The starter solenoid.
Starter Feed Circuit
  1. Disable the fuel system by removing the fuel pump fuse or the fuel pump relay.
  2. Verify that the vehicle will not start.
  3. Connect the positive lead of a voltmeter to the positive terminal of the battery.
  4. Connect the negative lead of a voltmeter to the starter B+ terminal.
  5. Turn the ignition key to the START position and note the voltage displayed on the voltmeter.
    • Ideally, there should be no more than 0.1 volt drop for each connection displayed on the voltmeter. No voltage should be consumed by the vehicle wiring
      1. If the battery cable connects directly to the starter motor there should be no more than a 0.2 volt drop measured
      2. If the vehicle uses a starter solenoid between the battery and the starter motor terminal there should be no more than 0.4 volt displayed on the voltmeter
Starter Ground Circuit
  1. Disable the fuel system by removing the fuel pump fuse or the fuel pump relay.
  2. Verify that the vehicle will not start.
  3. Connect the positive lead of the voltmeter to the case of the starter motor.
  4. Connect the negative lead of the voltmeter to the negative terminal of the battery.
  5. Turn the ignition key to the START position and note the voltage displayed on the voltmeter.
    • Ideally, there should be no more than 0.1 volt drop for each connection displayed on the voltmeter. No voltage should be consumed by the vehicle wiring
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  7. Verify that the vehicle will not start.
  8. Connect the positive lead of the voltmeter to the case starter B+ terminal.
  9. Connect the negative lead of the voltmeter to the lug (the starter M terminal) that connects the starter solenoid to the starter motor.
  10. Turn the ignition key to the START position and note the voltage displayed on the voltmeter.
    • Ideally, there should be no more than 0.2 volt drop across the starter solenoid displayed on the voltmeter.
In general, there should be no more than a 1.0 volt drop throughout the entire starter motor feed and ground circuit. Any voltage drops measured in either the feed or ground circuits after connections have been cleaned will require replacement of the affected battery cable. Typically, any voltage drops measured in the solenoid are repaired by replacing the starter motor.

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Removal & Installation

  1. Before servicing the vehicle, refer to the precautions at the beginning of this section.
  2. Record the radio anti theft code data.
  3. Remove or disconnect the following:

    Negative battery cable On 2002-05 vehicles, shift cable Starter motor electrical connectors On 2002-05 vehicles, starter heat shield Starter motor

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    Fig. Starter motor mounting-3.5L Engine


To install:
  1. Install or connect the following:

    Starter motor. Tighten the bolts to 20-24 ft. lbs. (27-33 Nm). On 2002-05 vehicles, starter heat shield Starter motor electrical connectors. Tighten the battery terminal nut to 106-141 inch lbs. (12-16 Nm). On 2002-05 vehicles, shift cable Negative battery cable Reprogram the radio anti theft codes
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Replace the starter

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Removal & Installation
Models With Automatic Transaxle
  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. Remove the two upper starter motor retaining bolts.
  3. Raise and support the vehicle using safety stands.
  4. Loosen the two intake manifold support bolts and remove the support.
  5. Loosen the support bracket bolts and remove the bracket.
  6. Loosen the starter motor support nuts and washers, then remove the support.
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  1. Disengage the S terminal connection from the solenoid.
  2. Loosen the B terminal washer and nut, then disengage the electrical connection from the solenoid.
  3. Loosen the lower starter motor bolt and remove the starter motor from the vehicle.
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Fig. 2: Starter motor mounting and electrical connections-models with automatic transaxles (click for zoom)


To install:
  1. Position the starter in the vehicle.
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  3. Engage the S and B terminal electrical connections.
When installing the hard shell connector, be careful to push it straight on and make sure it locks in position with a notable click or detent.
  1. Install the starter motor support and tighten the retainers to 35-44 inch lbs. (4-5 Nm).
  2. Install the support bracket and tighten the retaining bolts.
  3. Install the intake manifold support bracket and tighten the retainers to 12-14 ft. lbs. (16-22 Nm).
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  5. Install the starter motor upper retaining bolts and tighten them to 23-34 ft. lbs. (31-46 Nm).
  6. Connect the negative battery cable.

Models With Manual Transaxle
See Figure 11
  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. Loosen the B terminal washer and nut, then disengage the electrical connection from the solenoid.
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Fig. 11: Starter motor mounting and electrical connections-models with manual transaxles (click for zoom)



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Different manufacturers use different abreviations for circuit fuses and relays, I recommend to check all of them.

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Four types of starter motor are utilized depending upon the vehicle transaxle and assembly plant location. Manual transaxle equipped vehicles utilize a conventional starter motor which consists of a yoke, an armature assembly, an overrunning clutch assembly, a solenoid, a commutator end cover, a brush holder and a pinion drive lever. Automatic transaxle equipped vehicles utilize a reduction type starter motor which has, in addition to the components found on conventional starter motors, a reduction gear and shock absorber assembly.

In the basic circuit, the solenoid windings are energized when the ignition switch is turn to the START position and the clutch start/neutral safety switch is closed. The resulting plunger and shift lever movement causes the pinion to engage the engine flywheel ring gear. This movement also causes the starter solenoid contacts to close
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With the contacts closed, the starter solenoid provides a closed circuit between the battery positive terminal and the starter motor. Because the starter motor is permanently grounded to the engine block, the circuit is complete and cranking occurs as soon as the starter solenoid contacts are closed.

When the engine starts, the pinion is designed to overrun and protect the armature from excessive speed until the ignition switch is released from the START position. With the ignition switch released, a return spring in the solenoid assembly forces the starter solenoid contacts open, breaks the circuit between the battery and the starter motor, and disengages the pinion. To prevent prolonged overrun, the ignition switch should be immediately released upon engine start-up.


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  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. Remove the positive battery cable from the starter.
  3. Label and disconnect the solenoid electrical connectors.
  4. Scribe matchmarks on the solenoid and drive housing to ensure proper solenoid installation.
  5. Remove the nut and field coil lead wire from the solenoid.
  6. Remove the screws and solenoid from the starter.

To install:
  1. Lightly grease solenoid plunger.
  2. Install solenoid to starter aligning housing matchmarks.
  3. Install screws and tighten securely.
  4. Install field coil lead wire to solenoid and secure with retaining nut. Tighten to 89 inch lbs.. (10 Nm).
  5. Install the solenoid electrical connector.
  6. Install the positive battery cable. to the starter. Tighten to 89 inch lbs.. (10 Nm).
  7. Connect the negative battery cable.
Let me know how it worked out, Good Luck,
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Starter motor

Is there any sound when the key is turned? The solenoid may be stuck, and a light tap with a hammer may free it up. The starter is located on the engine block.

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REMOVAL & INSTALLATION
STARTER MOTOR
Removal & Installation (2.0L)

CAUTION:When battery is disconnected, vehicle computer and memory systems may lose memory data. Driveability problems may exist until computer systems have completed a relearn cycle. See COMPUTER RELEARN PROCEDURES article in GENERAL INFORMATION before disconnecting battery. Before testing starter, ensure transmission is in Park or Neutral.

Disconnect negative battery cable. Remove air cleaner. Remove upper starter mounting bolts. Raise and support vehicle. Disconnect starter solenoid wire connections. Remove starter motor lower mounting bolt. Remove starter motor. To install, reverse removal procedure. Ensure negative battery cable is installed with starter mounting bolt. Tighten bolts to specification. See TORQUE SPECIFICATIONS table.

Removal & Installation (2.5L)

Disconnect negative battery cable. Remove air cleaner and air cleaner bracket. Disconnect starter solenoid wire connections. Remove starter support bracket. On manual transmission equipped models, remove shift cable bracket and disconnect cable. On all models, remove fuel supply line from support bracket. Remove starter bolts. Remove starter. To install, reverse removal procedure. Tighten bolts to specification.
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Check to make sure that when you turn on ignition switch the solenoid is receiving power to engage the pinion gear and feed power to the starter motor. It is new so I suspect it is not receiving juice. U may have some bad connection causing the intermittent issue. PIA.
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