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I have a 2008 f250 with the 6.4liter engine. only 43000 miles. the truck started to loose power. figured that the fuel filters may be dirty or somthing so i did a complete service on it. the fuel filters were clean. went to change the oil, and it was a major ordeal. while draining the oil, i realized that there was alot more than 15 quarts in it. it ended up being more like nine gallons. the oil was extremely thin. no water, i suspect fuel. when i finally found the oil plug in the mess i made everywhere, it was full of metal shavings, not small shavings, this was like shavings from a very sharp drill bit. called the ford garage and they said to bring it in because it sounds like the high pressure oil pump is going out. asked him if i could run it and he said yes, it wouldn't hurt anything. this sounds like a line of bull ---- to me. replaced all the filters and put fresh oil in truck. ran the truck about 25 miles then checked the oil again. it is now about a half to three quarters of an inch over full already. if anyone can give me some advice before i bring it to the garage i'd really appreciate it. dealers always try to screw over you until the warranty is up from my dealings with them. thanks

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  • robertsonshe Sep 15, 2010

    there is no engine light or anything on. the crazy thing is that the truck will run perfect for about five miles or so then it looses power for a few miles, then it'll pick back up, then loose power again. it has me baffled. i have all service records from penzoil. oil is changed every 5000 miles give or take 100miles and all i use is rotella oil. the metal shavings, and the fuel in the oil seems like a strange mix, considering that the ford garage says that it sounds like the high pressure oil pump is causing all of this. then in the next breath, they say its ok to run it like that. this just don't sound right to me what they are saying. thats why i'm asking for some other openions for some fuel when i go over there and blow a gasket. i had all kinds of problems with my 6.0 and all they kept on doing is putting a bandaid on it. thanks for the advice and time. if you can think of anything, let me know.

  • robertsonshe Sep 15, 2010

    there are no check engine lights on. the ford garage says it sounds like the high pressure oil pump, but i just can't put the metal shavings and the five gallons of fuel in the oilpan with plus the four gallons of oil together and come up with an oil pump being bad, but hey, i'm not a disel mechanic, i'v worked on dozers and tractors and stuff, but not this high tech junk. if you know of anything please let me know so i'll have some kind of fuel when i go off in the dealership. they just like patching stuff when its under warranty to get you out of that warranty period for my past dealings with them. i got too much money invested and not the extra time to keep on patching the truck up to get by. thanks

  • robertsonshe Sep 16, 2010

    i'm not trying to put down on the mechanics at the dealerships, i'm putting down on the business end of the dealerships. i have personally dealt with the mechanics at the dealerships about problems while they were working on one of my vehicles. they could tell me the problem, what needed to be done about it and exactly how long it would take, then when they would turn in their findings, whoever approves the repairs in the business end would not let them or would not approve everything that needed to be done. now if you have never run into this before, lucky you. i have. i'm also in business, not on cars or trucks, but electrical, airconditioning and generators. i turn in warranty claims for approval regularly, and sometimes they won't allow me to do everything needed to completely solve a problem, but i'm the type of person that i don't like to get screwed, so i'm not gonna screw nobody so i do what needs to be done. and no its not little chicken poo generators or units if thats what you are thinking. 100-150 kw natural gas generators aren't too small or cheap. kinda like this fourty something thousand dollar truck that i'm trying to please get some kind of answers about, so either you can please tell me a propable reason for the problems for the truck or let someone else try to help me. thank you

  • robertsonshe Sep 16, 2010

    if you can give me any possiblities of what is wrong with my truck, please let me know. thanks

  • robertsonshe Sep 16, 2010

    thanks for the advice. i really don't want to make anyone mad, but this is getting to be kinda rediculous. my business is small and i depend on all of my trucks for my living along with my employees living too. thats why i really came on here to see if anyone else had or seen these kind of problems. i had a 05' 6.0 along with this truck too. i don't even want to get started on that truck. after 100000 miles, it ended up in the scrap yard. body and trans was excellent, but engine shot at 50000 miles then a bunch of bandaids. couldn't afford to keep putting money in it. thats why i'm so into getting as many openions on this truck because i can't afford bandaids after the warranty goes out in 50 something thousand more miles. thanks

  • robertsonshe Sep 16, 2010

    what could the problems be with the engine. nobody knows everything, so the more openions in the pot will only help get to the actual problem. thanks

  • robertsonshe Sep 16, 2010

    thanks for the help

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I think that you are exactly right about the fuel. It sounds like with the power loss and too much oil that one of the rings broke and the metal shavings are from gouging your cylinder wall up. So I am sure that it is a broken ring.

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    Rodney Clark Sep 16, 2010

    I completely understand what you are saying about dealerships. I have had the same problems on two of my vehicles. I still really think that you have a broken ring. A broken ring would explain the fuel in the oil, and the metal shavings. That is for sure something that would cause them both. And as far as the check engine light coming on, it wouldn't with a broken ring. As you know diesel engines run on compression. And if you are losing compression on one cylinder then it would make the truck run rough. When it runs ok, then the ring could be sealing back up for a short time to produce compression on that cylinder. It only makes sense to me that it is a ring problem.

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In your case CALL the 800 number to Ford Headquarters and relay this problem you have posted to them. They will relay your complaint straight back to this dealer and the dealer will call accommedating your needs. Dealers are always blowing off customers to keep their ratings up which is a farst to earn brownie points from the corporation which FORD does dislikes very much so. They lose customers this way

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I worked for dealers my entire 35 year long career and never screwed anyone, dealer have the equipment and the training to diagnose and QUICKLY find the problem, outside shops are the most frequently investigated for fraud, check this out with your state attorney generals office if u don't believe me, and by the way many experts are dealer techs and 99% are honest decent guys that always try to do an honest job.. have and good day.

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    yadayada Sep 16, 2010

    U have the list of possible problems, there is no one single magic fix, I was a Ford dealer tech for 35 years with a Master Tech cert from Ford in electronic engine control diagnosis and have never found just one thing that causes your problem, do the diagnosis of each system, also do a wiggle test on the engine wiring harness to see if it may be the problem. I thin u are over your head on this because when this happens a "flight data recorder" should be hooked up to capture the data that is streaming back to the PCM during the malfunction and see what is going wrong, only a dealer has this testing equipment for the EEV V advanced engine control system. But in any event good luck.

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Hi!!
It sounds like you have cracked intake manifold, or the piston rings are worn out.
If your vehicle does have the Engine light on, take vehicle to an AutoZone, Checkers, or similar Auto parts store to get the codes retrieved, they do not charge for the service. If the vehicle don't have the check engine light on, you should first have performed a compression and vacuum test, this is to try to find out where the fuel leak is located, on the intake manifold, head, block or the piston rings.
If your vehicle is still under warranty, as long as you had serviced the vehicle on schedule, it will cover the repair.
Good Luck!!

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