I have an 87 Toyota Celica GT-S, with 120K miles, 5 speed.
It has recently started "bucking" in first gear, occasionally in second. By "bucking", I mean it accellerates normally then slows quickly then speeds up like normal then slows, etc. The speed up/ slow down cycle lasts about a second, before repeating. Feels like an amusement park ride, or perhaps like riding an unwilling horse.
To continue my journey I just push in the clutch and try again. The second or third attempt at engaging the clutch is successful, and I go on my way. The problem is intermittent, and happens both with a cold or hot engine.
It has not been a problem in third gear or higher.
I thought it might be the clutch, but it never happens in 3rd or higher. Maybe a fuel problem, the pump or injectors? (It is a 16 valve 2.2L engine). I just had the timing belt changed. Could this problem be caused by slippage there? Anyway:
I would appreciate any experience or ideas. THANKS.
So if you can't find a leak (I couldn't), the sensor may be bad?
dsc
Dudley Cornman - Systems Programmer Academic Computing Services Eastern Ky. University Richmond, KY 40475-3111 (606) 622-1986
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Solution #2
posted on May 14, 2008
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Hugh:
This is a long shot, but check for cracks in your air intake hose between the air filter and the fuel injection system. I had a similar problem (usually only 2nd gear though) and that turned out to be the problem. The cracks must affect the fuel/air mixture somehow (though I'm not sure how, since it is before the injectors).
If you can't see any cracks visually, try flexing the hose with the engine idling. If there are any cracks, the engine will sputter when you flex the hose.
Actually, it is not such a long shot. I had the same experience with my 1988 Celica GTS at or around 80k. Turns out that checking the air filter on that engine was tantamount to stressing the intake hose (before the flow-meter obviously) severly. Eventually, it cracked, causing the bucking you describe.
-Matt --
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: : : : : Jeff,
Is there any noise associated with this problem? And have you noticed any leaks lately?
Adam Berliant - The News Tribune - Author of ``Used Car Reliability and Safety Guide'' Don't blame the News Tribune...only I could've thought this up.
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Solution #5
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Both myself and a co-worker have had this problem with our Celicas (86 and 87).
In both cases, it was caused by a leaky rubber connecting hose between the air cleaner and the intake manifold. They tend to crack along the concentric rings that allow flexing.
When he took his to the shop, the guy said "well, let me guess, it's the hose". He opened the hood and sure enough, it was.
They get brittle over time.
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Solution #6
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Possibly a fuel filter that's closed to plugged?
Bob
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Solution #7
posted on May 14, 2008
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Well: The mystery is solved. Not such a mystery, as it turns out, for some of you. Many thanks to : Jim M, Jeff S, Gary G, Ronald V, Adam B, and Bob E for your help.
And to Jim G, Shahid, Mike R, Matt S, and Barry F: YOUR RIGHT!!!!! (Ding ding ding ding!).
The bucking was being caused by a crack in the air intake hose between the filter and the engine. I found he crack last weekend. Probably happenned when I changed the air filter a couple weeks ago. I fixed the problem in about a minute by wrapping the hose with a piece of duct tape. (I hope it doesn't quack before I get to the parts store). (Sorry)
Thanks again for your help.
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My '86 automatic acts similar, except I would describe it as surging rather than bucking. It will go from 1200-1500 and back several times... only on decelleration. It's worse when you have the OD locked out than when it's engaged.
Thanks for the tip. I'll try it. Or maybe just replace it if I can find one. I had figured that the computer was getting some "mixed" signals or something. It runs fine otherwise.
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Dudley Cornman - Systems Programmer Academic Computing Services Eastern Ky. University Richmond, KY 40475-3111 (606) 622-1986
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Solution #9
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Actually, I believe the leak causes an incorrect airflow sensor reading that is input to the computer. It's kind of a spring-loaded "flapper valve" that deflects with greater airflow, actuating a potientometer.
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