I just took my 84 GMC S-15 Jimmy into the shop because it was leaking water into the crankcase. I've been told by a couple of repair places and GM service shops that this is fairly common on this engine (2.8L V6). Evidently the engine blows the intake manifold gasket. I was also told that I was lucky as I had gotten to 80K miles before this happened. The shops said this usually happens around 65K miles. Anybody else have this experience with their 2.8s? I would like to hear what you have to say.
-   i have a buick with a 2.8 and when iit gets hot it stalls and dont want to start untill it cools off where shoul i look for problem has fuel preasure seems like a sensor -   pscal
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posted on May 14, 2008
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Same problem here. '83 Pontiac 6000, 2.8L V6. I let a shop do the repair and unfortunately let them replace the standard thermostat (185 degree?) with a cooler one. (Actually, they did it first and told me about it later.) Within a few months, exhaust gasses were leaking into the cooling system form a head gasket leak. I suspect the 160 degree thermostat was the cause, as the engine was meant to run hot. The cooling fan doesn't come on until 200-210 degrees, so there was a considerable swing in the engine temperature whenever the car idled or sat in traffic. I don't know where mechanics get the lame idea that cooler thermostats cause less stress on the engine.
-Larry
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posted on Jul 06, 2008
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I have 1998 malibu with a 3.1L it has the same intake gaskets as the 1999 chevy 4.3L, not sure about the 2.8L. The intake gaskets are not hard to replace if you are pretty good with taking things apart and putting them back together, if it is leaking don't push-it get them changed out. I also had a 1990 gmc 2.8L the intake gaskets are paper type gaskets, had 1988 blazer 2.8L it had paper type gaskets also. I have a 1999 gmc bought it with a bad motor (4.3L), I also have a 1989 blazer with 4.3L with no problems
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Never heard this problem or have had it on my '88 2.8L V6. I've got 90,000 miles on mine.
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I own a 1980 2.8L V6 with it still has the original gaskets. My only trouble sign is loose bearings (as evidenced by low oil pressure). I have removed the valve covers and re-sealed them to fix a leak, and the front main oil seal is leaking a small amount of oil. I suppose I'm just lucky judging from the stories I hear from other owners of this engine.
The manifold gasket isn't that tough to replace, right? I'd just buy a new one and drop it in yourself, as long as everything else is still performing OK.
-- David Deaven A504 Physics tel 515-294-6878 Ames Laboratory fax 515-294-0689 Ames IA 50011
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Water leaking into the crankshaft is reportedly fairly common on GM 2.8V6 engine. This is according to the rebuild shop that just did mine (total failure of a camshaft lobe at 88K miles).
On ANY engine check your oil frequently for signs of water (foamy milkshake substance on the stick). Catch this early and prevent total engine failure.
The cause of premature failure is due to aluminum parts being used on steel blocks. This is a challenge for cars from all continents-not just US cars. (Check with early model Mazda 626 owners-ask them about their head gasket lifespans).
...Dennis Henderson, rebuilt and *balanced* 2.8V6...and loving it.
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I've seen this same problem posted by quite a few people. I have an S-15 that I bought used that supposedly had the engine replaced at 25K miles. It was actually rebuilt, but I'll bet that it had the gasket failure. I recently rebuilt the engine again, and was very carefull about the intake gasket installation and used sealer around the water jacket holes.
Supposedly, the placement of the EGR valve on this engine causes localized overheating and gasket failure. This is mentioned in the Mar. 92 "Motor" article I keep citing, "The V6 From Hell" (which is mostly about the infamous MAF-related problems with this engine). That said, I have 76K miles on my '88 Celebrity with the 2.8L V6 and no gasket problems so far. It may be a problem specific to the Jimmy.
--- - Michel
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| | | | | | | I had an '83 S-10 Blazer that did exactly the same thing at 83K miles. Now you've got me worried, as I now drive an '87 Fiero with the 2.8L V6!!
Dave Evans
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I'm pretty sure all '86 Z24's had the al heads. Mine did and it never had the problem described. I sold it with 123k miles on it.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | I have an '86 z24 w/ 2.8l 6. I can't swear it, but I think it has iron heads. Anyhow, no problem yet (knock wood) at 117,000. --
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