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Wont start theft light flashes kids lost my keys so i had the bright idea of punching out the ignition want a ******** move is there way to disconnect this?

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I believe you have the PATS system, and there is no override. There are some bypass systems, but you still need at least one (possibly 2) factory key to operate. I have researched this extensively for one of my cars. I think you need to get at least one key from the dealer and have it programmed into the car. After that, I have found that by removing the PATS transponder from around the key cylinder and putting the one factory key inside (permanently), I can now use any $2 properly cut key to run the car. Questions--lemme know

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