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Purchased 1995 VW Cabrio Automatic 90,000 miles. Sometimes it will not start, meaning when you turn the ignition key no click no start. Have replaced the Ignition switch & starter assembly. Problem occurred again today 9/2 after replacing starter on 8/29. Car used every day. Always starts in morning. Daughter drove to school car sat for 2 hours when she tried it would not start as above. Please help

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  • draybould51 Sep 02, 2010

    I think the battery is good. Could there be a starter relay or a bad neutral switch problem?

  • draybould51 Sep 02, 2010

    I guess I'll replace the starter relay?? I think you are saying if the neutral switch failed it would start in any gear?

  • draybould51 Sep 03, 2010

    Thanks for the help. Where is the relay & where are the terminals you are speaking about.

  • draybould51 Sep 03, 2010

    On the internet there have been reports of "Hotsoak" problems with the starters on automatics. Even happening with those cars equiped with a starter relay. On older cars like the 95' there maybe hi resitance in the wires/connections due to them cooking under the exhaust. The fix is to install a ford relay with higher gauge wire between the battery & starter solenoid. Could this help my problem

  • draybould51 Sep 03, 2010

    Can the hotsoak starter issue be my problem on a 1995 Cabrio. Have replaced the starter assy,ignition switch and battery OK

  • draybould51 Sep 05, 2010

    I bought the correct chilton manual but none of the electrical diagrams are correct. Which relay is the starter relay in the fuse box & how would I jump the neutral switch in case it is bad

  • draybould51 Sep 15, 2010

    Ran wire to solenoid starts car. 1 week later starter would not turn over. horn sounded on own. Clock

  • draybould51 Sep 15, 2010

    Battery wire to solenoid worked.1 week later wouyld not turn over only clicked. Souned like low battery. Jumped battery did not help. horn sounded. disconected battery for 30 minutes. reconnected and horn sounded imediately. Odometer

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Now normally on these cars its the ignition switch that plays up ,now what i would do is to run a wire direct from the starter motor solonoid ,small wire on the starter motor and leave enough slack so it can be tied to the battery cable on the positive terminal ,then if it doesnt start on the key ,turn ignition on and touch wire to + terminal and it will start ,Now as for the cause ?' well you have stated you changed some parts but was this new or scrapyard parts ,now also their is a starter relay somewhere ,i think its in the fuse box next to the battery ?' but honestly cannot remember ,also this fuse box by the battery is renouned for having dodgy connections when it get old ,so check them all out ,and the ally fuses corrode through as well .but if all else fails then you still have the direct feed ,Also remember that from 1992 these vehicles were fitted with security keys (chipped) well here in europe anyway as we must have more thieves here .check the engine to chassis earth cable as well ,they dont often go wrong but they can have a high resistance which would cause a similar problem.

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You may have enough battery volts but not enough amps to crank the engine over. First double check all your battery cables to make sure they are all very clean and tight. If they are, try tapping on the solenoid to see if it's stuck. If it doesn't make a difference, check the ignition wire form ignition to the solenoid. A cracked wire can also cause this. Most part stores will test the battery for free.

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  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield Sep 02, 2010

    Yes there is a starter relay under the hood in the relay compartment. A bad neutral safety switch could also cause this but it probably would let you shift out of gear though either.

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield Sep 03, 2010

    That is what I believe.
    You can test the relay before replacing it to save some money just in case.
    You can use an ohmmeter. Make sure you have good 30amp fuse in the starter relay.


    Step 1. Hook black jumper wire from 12 volt negative post of battery to green/red wire of terminal.


    Step 2. Hook red jumper wire from 12 volt positive post of battery to
    yellow/red wire terminal. when you hook this wire up, You will hear a
    click. This clicking sound is the contacts in the starter relay.


    Step 3. Use your continuity tester on the large terminals of the starter relay.

    B is battery and M is starter motor.


    There should be continuity between the large terminals while the battery
    is connected, and no continuity when the battery is disconnected.

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    A relay is used to keep from running large wires through the ignition switch.



    There is a heavy wire from the battery to the relay, and from the relay
    to the starter. When the ignition is turned to start, the wire from the
    switch feeds the relay, closing the circuit, and allowing juice to flow
    to the starter. When the key is released, the flow stops. The relay is
    grounded to the inner fender to make a circuit for the key wire.



    You should have a reading from the key switch between the wire and
    ground when the key is turned to start or the button is pushed. No
    reading when the key is in the RUN position or the button released.



    There should be no reading between the large posts on either side of the
    relay unless the key is in the START position or the button pushed.



    There should be no reading between the key wire post and ground for voltage without a wire from the key switch or button.



    Make sure that your voltmeter isn't in the Ohms position for reading continuity.

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield Sep 03, 2010

    The square box relay is under the hood in the relay center. Usually the bottom of the cover of the relay center is labeled to tell you what relay is for what. The owner's manual has it to. Pull the relay straight out, then you will see the terminals on the bottom of the relay.

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield Sep 04, 2010

    Probably not the starter but the solenoid is a likely cause. The starter is possible but not as likely as the solenoid. One thing you can do is take a good thick wire, stick it on the positive terminal of the battery, the stick the other end very carefully on the starter positive wire and see if she turns over then.

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield Sep 05, 2010

    Under the cover of the relay center of the car under the hood, there should be labels of which relay is what. The owner's manual also contains this information.
    The jump an neutral saftey switch, you just bypass the switch by connecting the two wires leading to it together or use a seperate wire and connect them together that way.

  • draybould51 Sep 15, 2010

    Ran wire from battery to remote start switch to solenoid. Car started no problem. Ran great for over a week. Then battery seemed low. Jumped battery but still only click click on starter then nothing. Now horn sounds when it wants? Disconnected neg terminal on battery waited 30 minutes then re connected. Horn sounded again. Odometer

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield Sep 15, 2010

    Sounds like you may have a bad solenoid if you can directly jump the battery cable and it is not started. Do check the ignition wire connection. If you have an anti-theft system, that could cause some problems. I would have the solenoid or the starter tested.

  • draybould51 Sep 15, 2010

    The starter is new. Has been working fine for 1 week plus. The problem started when my daughter ran out of gas. She ran the battery down trying to start the car. Then she said the horn would go on

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield Sep 15, 2010

    Is there a security or anti-theft system on this car? Have you checked the wire from starter to ignition?

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