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Battery drains at night. truck had smoke around dash or wheel. will no longer start. horn is shorted on. guages not working. accessories work when key is turned on but no start or guages. a black wire of the positive goes into 4 wires. one was broken off at factory splitter.a red wire was used to replace it going through the firewall connector box and to the steering wheel. i am in the bahamas with no help and limited experiance. can you help mefix it or tell me how to jump this starter which is hard to see and get at. it is now parked on a side road a mile from my house. 1993 dodge ram d-150 pick up 107ne16ybps144448 carolrossfish@bellsouth.net

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  • carol ross Sep 02, 2010

    i checked the fuses good should i look in the sreering column and key switch a blown fuse and burned wire would be the result of failure but what caused it how is the guages and key switch wires related why does the door open buzzer work when key is turned also how do i jump the starter with battery cables direct to starter with thekey on (to get home)

  • carol ross Sep 03, 2010

    i do not know battery drain i am not a pro or even close there is no mechanic close sorry to put you through this i know it is difficult reread my notes then try to answer each area separetely would the wire to the starter selinoid be near or connected to the guages and/or horn wires what about starting the truck by jumper cables to starter with key switch on to get it home the nightly battery drain may not be related to this burned wire and no start i relieve you of any responsiblity for this wild guess at whats wrong and how to fix it or get home

  • carol ross Sep 03, 2010

    hello from abaco bahamas your comments were exactly what i needed to know i wii try it and let you know i will be careful the truck is an important vehicle for hauling for the settlement one last thing are the recessed screws under the steering cover a star drive i got the exposed 2 screws off but can,t reach the recessed ones and don,tknow type head you have done more than i ever thought you would especially the last few solutions

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I would advise against driving this vehicle in the current state. You mention 2 things, a shorted horn, and smoke in the cab. This could mean the wires under the dash have shorted together and you are now at risk of fire. An electrical fire on a vehicle can leave you with no vehicle at all in 5 minutes. That's how long it takes for a car to be completely gutted by fire. You need to disconnect the battery negative cable to prevent any further damage and have the wiring checked. If your vehicle is fuel injected there is no quick fix to get you home without risking fire and you will have to find an auto electrician to have it checked out. A diesel engine would be easier to get home.
I'm going to attempt to assist you with a quick fix to get you home.
Have a fire extinguisher ready.
IMPORTANT : AT THE FIRST SIGN OF SMOKE GET THE NEGATIVE (BLACK) CABLE OFF THE BATTERY AS QUICK AS YOU CAN BEFORE YOU EVEN TOUCH THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER!!!
First, on jump starting:
You will need jumper cables and another vehicle.
Start the other vehicle and turn on the headlights on YOUR vehicle.(This is to prevent damage to your ECU if it has one) Connect the positive of your battery(red cable) to the positive of the other vehicle with the jumper cable. Switch on your headlights. Connect the negatives of the batteries with the other jumper cable. Turn off your lights. Have the other vehicle idle for at least 10 minutes. This will charge your battery but it takes a while. You can then attempt to start your vehicle.

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    Rene Rossouw Sep 03, 2010

    Operating a starter without the ignition.
    On the side of the engine bay just behind the battery is a brass colored metal box with a black plastic underside, held by one bolt. It has a connector with four wires, plugged into it. Pull out the connector. Identify the 2 thickest wires. Using a short piece of wire connect these 2 wires together. This will operate the starter. So now you can switch on the truck,(remember to put it in park or neutral, or better yet, have someone behind the wheel) operate the starter at the relay by touching the 2 wires together and hopefully drive home.

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    Rene Rossouw Sep 03, 2010

    If the vehicle still does not start you can tow it. since you are only a mile from home. Place the transmission in neutral. Keep towing speed below 20mph. Remember to turn your ignition switch on but preferably disconnect the battery. Bear in mind that when towing a vehicle the front vehicle supplies the engine power and the towed vehicle supplies all the braking power. Your brakes will also be rock hard since there is no assistance from the engine. The same goes for the steering. Get someone with strong arms and legs behind the wheel.
    For trouble shooting the battery drain and other wiring related problems you will need a volt meter. If you're going to do this yourself you'll need to get one.
    As for the guages and ignition switch:
    When you turn the ignition switch to the on position it activates a couple of circuits at the same time. It supplies power to the ECU which controls spark and fuel injection. It also activates other circuits via relays which is why your accessories work but the dash does not. They are on different relay circuits.

    I would suggest you get the steering column covers off. Have a look at the wires as to which ones are burnt. Even though the insulation around the wires are burnt together you can still repair the wiring. Remember to disconnect the battery negative before starting with this. Carefully pull the burnt wires apart starting at a point where they are not burnt. You'll have to get the insulation tape off the wiring first. With the burnt wires seperated you can re-insulate them individually or simply cut each one and replace them one by one with new wire. The original cause of the burnt wiring will most probably be due to chafing and shortcircuit or a broken power wire that shorted out on metal under the dash.

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    All are philips head(star).

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What is the value of the batt drain? it is measured in amps

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If you have any short there, its possible that any fuse is blow and needed replace it; check in the fuse panel and power box to be sure.

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