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Check engine light on. Vent solenoid on the vapor canister showed 11.6 volts when ignition switch on, better than 13 volts when engine on--but is in open position. Could problem be the evap purge valve--where is that located on the vehicle. Can the fuel vapor canister be saturated and cause the problem,?

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SOURCE: check engine light came on Autozone said needed EVAP purge solenoid?

The problem is, Autozone doesn't use a scanner. They use a scan tool otherwise known as a code reader. I suggest get another opinion at a shop with an actual scanner. They would be more helpful to you. Don't just throw parts at it.

Posted on Jun 11, 2008

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SOURCE: the solenoids and system wiringare monitored for opens or shorts

The only thing that can cause a saturated vapor canister is over filling the fuel tank.,

Posted on Oct 27, 2008

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SOURCE: my service engine light came on..i went to

I just got home with the same issue. i changed my gas cap going cheap frst but I think the Purge is under the intake cover.

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Posted on May 08, 2010

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SOURCE: the read out, po446, says

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go to that link refer it very useful information
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Where is purge valve located?


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Vent solenoid location on a 2003 sunfire


On a 2002 Sunfire, the fuel vapor canister purge solenoid (AKA canister vent solenoid) is between the engine and the firewall, up high near the hood. It's a black box with two hose or fuel vapor line ports going toward the passenger side and one toward the driver side. One of the passenger side hoses goes to the vapor canister.

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How to find codes for check engine light on


Check Engine Light Codes and Meanings
Long blinks Short blinks Problem
1 1 Camshaft position sensor
1 2 Mass air flow sensor
1 3 Engine coolant temperature sensor
1 4 Speed sensor
1 11 EVAP control system (flow)
1 14 Fuel injection system right bank (too rich)
1 15 Fuel injection system right bank (too lean)
2 1 Ignition circuit
2 3 Closed throttle position switch
2 5 Idle speed control
2 9 Fuel Injection system left bank (too rich)
2 10 Fuel Injection system left bank (too lean)
3 1 ECU
3 2 Exhaust gas recirculation system flow problem
3 3 Front left O2 sensor
3 4 Knock sensor
3 5 Exhaust gas recirculation temperature sensor
3 6 EGRC-BPT valve
3 7 Closed loop control
3 8 Closed loop control
4 1 Air intake temperature sensor
4 2 Fuel tank temperature sensor
4 3 Throttle position sensor
4 7 Crankshaft position sensor
5 3 Front right O2 sensor
5 4 Automatic transmission control unit
6 3 Cylinder #6 misfire
6 4 Cylinder #5 misfire
6 5 Cylinder #4 misfire
6 6 Cylinder #3 misfire
6 7 Cylinder #2 misfire
6 8 Cylinder #1 misfire
7 1 Multiple cylinder misfire
7 2 Three way catalytic converter (right side)
7 3 Three way catalytic converter (left side)
7 4 Evaporative emission control system pressure sensor
7 5 Evaporative emission control system
7 7 Rear O2 sensor
8 1 Vacuum cut valve bypass valve
8 2 Crank position sensor
8 3 Absolute pressure sensor
8 4 Automatic transmission control unit
8 6 Evaporative emission canister purge control solenoid valve
8 7 Evaporative emission Canister purge control solenoid valve circuit
9 1 Front Right O2 sensor
9 3 Evaporative emission Canister vent control valve
9 5 Crankshaft position sensor
9 8 Engine coolant temperature sensor
10 1 Front left O2 sensor
10 3 Park and Neutral position switch
10 5 EGRC solenoid valve
10 8 Evaporative emission canister purge volume control valve
11 1 Inhibitor switch
11 2 Revolution sensor
11 3 Improper shifting to first gear (Automatic transmission)
11 4 Improper shifting to second gear (Automatic transmission)
11 5 Improper shifting to third gear (Automatic transmission)
11 6 Improper shifting to fourth gear (Automatic transmission)
11 7 Solenoid valve lock up function
12 1 Shift solenoid B (Automatic transmission)
12 3 Overrun clutch solenoid valve (Automatic transmission)
12 4 Torque converter clutch solenoid valve (Automatic transmission)
12 5 Line pressure solenoid valve (Automatic transmission)
12 6 Throttle position sensor (Automatic transmission)
12 7 Engine speed signal
12 8 Fluid temperature sensor
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2000 Ford Expedition My Expedition (4.6L V-9 2WD) has had an intermittent problem of cutting out. The Check Engine light was not coming on - so I figured it is not a misfire. It drove just like it had...


Continuous Memory Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) P0446 or P1450 indicates that Self-Test has detected the Evaporative Emission Control System has excessive fuel tank vacuum. Also, a DTC P0446 indicates a vent control malfunction.

Possible causes:

EVAP canister purge outlet tube (EVAP canister purge valve to EVAP canister) blockages or kinks.

EVAP canister tube (fuel tank to EVAP canister) blockages or kinks.

Fuel vapor elbow on EVAP canister contaminated.

Restricted EVAP canister.

Canister vent (CV) solenoid stuck closed (partially or fully).

Plugged or contaminated CV solenoid filter.

EVAP canister purge valve stuck open.

Fuel filler cap stuck closed (no vacuum relief).

VREF circuit open in fuel tank pressure (FTP) sensor.

Damaged FTP sensor. (fuel tank pressure)

Check for kinks or bends in the fuel vapor hoses/tubes (EVAP canister purge outlet tube and EVAP canister tube).

Visually inspect EVAP canister inlet port, CV solenoid filter and canister vent hose assembly for contamination or debris.

Check CV solenoid filter for blockage or contamination.

The common things I've seen are are mud in the canister and the canister vent solenoid being shot or the wiring to the canister vent solenoid being torn off. The resistance of the solenoid should be 48-65 ohms..
Pick up a Chiltons book and will give you a diagram of where exactly you find the canister. They are like $15 at any auto store. Good luck

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What is evaporation control system malfuction mean? The code is P0440


Hi, the computer has sensed through the fuel tank pressure sensor that the vapor cannister is not evacuating properly. I have pasted details on the EVAP system below. Check the purge valve on top of the engine as shown below (#1 in picture). Make sure the electrical connector is on the valve, that the wires are not damaged, and check the hose for kinks. If all looks good, I recommend you replace the valve. A new valve is $23 at autozone. Please let me know if you have more questions and thanks for using FixYa.

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Description & Operation
EVAP Canister
The canister is filled with carbon pellets used to absorb and store fuel vapors. Fuel vapor is stored in the canister until the control module determines that the vapor can be consumed in the normal combustion process.
EVAP Control System
The evaporative emission (EVAP) control system limits fuel vapors from escaping into the atmosphere. Fuel tank vapors are allowed to move from the fuel tank, due to pressure in the tank, through the vapor pipe, into the EVAP canister. Carbon in the canister absorbs and stores the fuel vapors. Excess pressure is vented through the vent line and EVAP vent solenoid to atmosphere.
The EVAP canister stores the fuel vapors until the engine is able to use them. At an appropriate time, the control module will command the EVAP purge solenoid ON, open, allowing engine vacuum to be applied to the EVAP canister. With the EVAP vent solenoid OFF, open, fresh air will be drawn through the solenoid and vent line to the EVAP canister. Fresh air is drawn through the canister, pulling fuel vapors from the carbon.
The air/fuel vapor mixture continues through the EVAP purge pipe and EVAP purge solenoid into the intake manifold to be consumed during normal combustion. The control module uses several tests to determine if the EVAP system is leaking.
The EVAP system consists of the following components:
EVAP Purge Solenoid
The EVAP purge solenoid controls the flow of vapors from the EVAP system to the intake manifold. This normally closed solenoid is pulse width modulated (PWM) by the control module to precisely control the flow of fuel vapor to the engine. The solenoid will also be opened during some portions of the EVAP testing, allowing engine vacuum to enter the EVAP system.
EVAP Service Port
The EVAP service port is located in the EVAP purge pipe between the EVAP purge solenoid and the EVAP canister. The service port is identified by a green colored cap.
EVAP Vent Solenoid
The EVAP vent solenoid controls fresh airflow into the EVAP canister. The solenoid is normally open. The control module will command the solenoid closed during some EVAP tests, allowing the system to be tested for leaks.
Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor
The FTP sensor measures the difference between the pressure or vacuum in the fuel tank and outside air pressure. The control module provides a 5-volt reference and a ground to the FTP sensor. The FTP sensor provides a signal voltage back to the control module that can vary between 0.1-4.9 volts. As FTP increases, FTP sensor voltage decreases, high pressure = low voltage. As FTP decreases, FTP voltage increases, low pressure or vacuum = high voltage.

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Emission control malfuction p0440


Easier said then done without professional tools

However, I'll start you will some theory, then the shop manual procedures followed by some "common" problems

Theory:
Evaporative leak detection strategy is based on applying vacuum to EVAP system and monitoring vacuum decay. Powertrain Control Module (PCM) monitors vacuum level by means of fuel tank vacuum sensor input. At a predetermined time, EVAP purge solenoid and EVAP vent solenoid are turned on. This allows engine vacuum to draw a small vacuum on entire EVAP system. Whenever a sufficient vacuum level cannot be achieved, a large leak or faulty EVAP purge solenoid is indicated.

Conditions for setting this DTC are as follows:
No TP sensor, ODM, IAT sensor, or MAP sensor DTCs present.
Start-up ECT 40-86°F (4-30°C).
Start-up ECT not greater than 14°F (8°C) greater than start-up IAT.
Start-up IAT not greater than 4°F (2°C) of start-up ECT.
Fuel tank level is 15-85 percent.
BARO is greater than 75 kPa.
Vehicle has been driven at least 11 miles.
EVAP system is unable to achieve or maintain vacuum during diagnostic test.

Diagnostic Procedures
1.) Perform On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) system check.
After performing OBD system check, go to next step.

2.) Check if DTC P1665 or P1676 is also set. If any of DTCs is present, diagnose affected DTCs. If DTCs are not present, go to next step.

3.) Turn ignition off. Remove fuel filler cap. Turn ignition on. Using scan tool, observe fuel tank pressure. If fuel tank pressure is zero in. H2O, go to next step. If fuel tank pressure in not zero in. H2O, diagnose evaporative system.

4.) Replace fuel filler cap. Using scan tool, capture FAILURE RECORD data for DTC P0440 and clear DTC. Command EVAP vent solenoid on. Connect EVAP Pressure/Purge Diagnostic Station (J-41413) to EVAP service port. Pressurize EVAP system using diagnostic station. Monitor pressure on EVAP pressure gauge on diagnostic station. If pressure is 5 in. H2O, go to next step. If pressure is not 5 in. H2O, go to step 6.

5.) Maintain EVAP pressure at 5 in. H2O. Observe fuel tank pressure on scan tool. If fuel tank pressure reading on scan tool is 5 in. H2O, go to step 8. If reading is not 5 in. H2O, go to next step.

6.) Disconnect fuel tank vapor line and EVAP purge line from EVAP canister. Block canister fitting for fuel tank pressure line. Connect a hand-held vacuum pump to canister fitting for EVAP purge line. Ensure that EVAP vent solenoid is still commanded on. Apply vacuum to EVAP canister. If vacuum can be maintained at 5 in. Hg, go to step 11. If vacuum cannot be maintained at 5 in. Hg, go to step 10.

7.) Check for restriction in fuel tank vapor line or EVAP purge line. Repair as necessary. After repairs, go to step 16. If restriction is not found, diagnose EVAP system.

8.) Disconnect vacuum source line at EVAP purge solenoid and plug vacuum source fitting on solenoid. Using scan tool's output tests function, select and activate SYSTEM PERF. Pressurize EVAP system to 5 in H2O. Observe EVAP pressure gauge on diagnostic station while removing plug from EVAP purge solenoid vacuum source fitting. If EVAP pressure decreases to zero in. H2O within 15 seconds while system performance is activated, go to next step. If EVAP pressure does not decrease to zero in. H2O within 15 seconds, go to step 13.

9.) Install vacuum gauge on EVAP diagnostic station to vacuum source line. Start and operate engine to greater than 2000 RPM. Observe source vacuum level. If vacuum level is greater than -15 in. Hg, If vacuum level is not greater than -15 in. Hg, go to step 14.

10.) Check for disconnected or damaged vent hose. Check for damaged EVAP canister. Repair as necessary. After repairs, go to step 16. If no problems are found, go to next step.

11.) Check for faulty or missing fuel filler cap. Check for disconnected or leaking fuel tank vapor line. Check for disconnected or damaged EVAP purge line. If problem is found, repair as necessary. After repairs, go to step 16. If no problems are found, go to next step.

12.) Using scan tool, command EVAP vent solenoid on. Continuously attempt to pressurize the EVAP system by leaving the EVAP diagnostic station control knob in the pressurized position. Using the Ultrasonic Leak Detector (J-41416), locate and repair leak in EVAP system. After repairs, go to step 16.

13.) Replace EVAP purge solenoid. After replacing solenoid, go to step 16.

14.) Check for carbon release into the EVAP system. Repair as necessary. After repairs, go to step 16.

15.) Replace EVAP vent solenoid. After replacing solenoid, go to next step.

15.) Turn ignition on. Using scan tool, command EVAP vent solenoid on. Using EVAP diagnostic station, pressurize EVAP system to 15 in. H2O. Move rotary switch in diagnostic station to HOLD and observe EVAP pressure gauge. If EVAP pressure decreases to less than 10 in. Hg within 2 minutes, repeat step 3. If EVAP pressure does not decrease, system is okay.

Diagnostic Aids
Check for the following:
Cracked or punctured EVAP canister.
Damaged or disconnected source vacuum line, EVAP purge line, vent hose, for fuel tank vapor line.
Poor connection at PCM.
Inspect harness connectors for backed-out terminals, improper mating, broken lock, damaged terminals, or poor wire connection.
Check for intermittent in circuit.
Check for kinked, pinched or plugged vacuum lines to EVAP purge or fuel tank vapor line. Also check for restrictions.
Faulty or damaged evaporative canister.

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Check engine light is on for emission evaporator failure-large


P0455 - EVAP Control System Leak Detected (No Purge Flow or Large Leak) The PCM monitors the complete EVAP control system for no purge flow, the presence of a large fuel vapor leak or multiple small fuel vapor leaks. The system failure occurs when no purge flow (attributed to fuel vapor blockages or restrictions), a large fuel vapor leak or multiple fuel vapor leaks are detected by the EVAP running loss monitor test with the engine running (but not at idle).
  • After-market EVAP hardware (such as fuel filler cap) non-conforming to required specifications
  • Disconnected or cracked fuel EVAP canister tube, EVAP canister purge outlet tube or EVAP return tube
  • EVAP canister purge valve stuck closed
  • Damaged EVAP canister
  • Damaged or missing fuel filler cap
  • Insufficient fuel filler cap installation
  • Loose fuel vapor hose/tube connections to EVAP system components
  • Blockages or restrictions in fuel vapor hoses/tubes (items also listed under disconnections or cracks)
  • Fuel vapor control valve tube assembly or fuel vapor vent valve assembly blocked
  • Canister vent (CV) solenoid stuck open
  • Mechanically inoperative fuel tank pressure (FTP) sensor
Check for audible vacuum noise or significant fuel odor in the engine compartment or near the EVAP canister and fuel tank. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- HX43 DTC P0457: CHECK FOR MISSING OR LEAKING FUEL FILLER CAP
  • Check for missing fuel filler cap.
  • Check for loose fuel filler cap.
  • Check for possible cross-thread fuel filler cap condition.
Is a fault present concerning the proper installation of the fuel filler cap? Yes No REPLACE cross-threaded or damaged fuel filler cap. RECONNECT and TIGHTEN the fuel filler cap only one eighth turn so that the cap initially clicks by sound or touch. CLEAR Continuous Memory DTCs. COMPLETE an Evaporative Emission Running Loss Monitor Repair Verification Drive Cycle (refer to Section 2 , Drive Cycles). RERUN Quick Test . If DTC P0455 or P0457 is present, Go to HX44 . CLEAR Continuous Memory DTCs. COMPLETE an Evaporative Emission Running Loss Monitor Repair Verification Drive Cycle (refer to Section 2 , Drive Cycles). RERUN Quick Test .

For DTC P0455 still present: Go to HX44 .

Otherwise, INFORM the vehicle owner that it is important and necessary to immediately install the fuel filler cap after every refueling event. HX44 DTC P0455: VISUAL INSPECTION FOR SUBSTANTIAL EVAPORATIVE EMISSION SYSTEM LEAKS
  • Check for missing fuel filler cap. If the cap is loose DO NOT DISTURB EVAP system.
  • Verify that both the input port vacuum hose and EVAP return tube are attached to the EVAP canister purge valve. Note: If the EVAP canister-CV solenoid assembly is not accessible during this pinpoint test step, GO to Evaporative Emissions, Section 303-13 in the Workshop Manual for removal and installation instructions.
  • Verify that the CV solenoid is properly seated on the EVAP canister (if possible).
  • Visually inspect for disconnected or cracked fuel vapor hoses/tubes between the intake manifold, the EVAP canister purge valve, the EVAP canister, the fuel vapor vent valve assembly and if applicable the fuel vapor control valve tube assembly.
  • Check for damage to the fuel filler pipe and the fuel tank.
Is a fault indicated? Yes No CONNECT or REPLACE fuel vapor hoses/tubes as required. REPLACE damaged EVAP system components (fuel filler pipe, fuel vapor vent valve assembly, fuel vapor control valve tube assembly, EVAP canister purge valve, FTP sensor and EVAP canister-CV solenoid assembly) as necessary. REFER to Evaporative Emissions, Section 303-13 in the Workshop Manual for removal and installation instructions. GO to HX45 . GO to HX45 . HX45 DTC P1443 and P0455: CHECK FOR EVAPORATIVE EMISSION SYSTEM LEAKS
    Note: When checking for leaks or blockages in the EVAP system, energize (close) the canister vent (CV) solenoid through the scan tool for a maximum of nine minutes per pinpoint test step. Then de-energize the CV solenoid prior to performing the subsequent pinpoint test step. This is done to assure proper closing of the solenoid.
  • Disconnect and plug the EVAP return tube (EVAP canister purge valve to intake manifold) at the intake manifold vacuum source.
  • Connect scan tool.
  • Key on, engine off.
  • Access VPWR PID. If the voltage is not 12 volts or greater, GO to HX61 .
  • Locate evaporative test port [marked EVAPORATIVE SERVICE PORT DO NOT USE UNREGULATED PRESSURE ABOVE 6.89 kPa (1 PSI)] near EVAP canister purge valve or EVAP canister.
  • If vehicle is not equipped with the evaporative test port, GO to HX50 .
  • Install the Rotunda Evaporative Emission System Leak Tester 310-F007 (134-00056) or equivalent at the evaporative test port.
  • Close CV solenoid by accessing Output Test Mode on the scan tool.
  • Select ALL OFF mode and push START button.
  • Regulate the nitrogen or argon gas pressure on the tester to 3.48 kPa (14 in-H 2 O).
  • Follow the instructions that come with the EVAP System Leak Tester and pressurize the EVAP system.
  • Perform the EVAP system leak test.
Does the pressure on the EVAP system stay above 1.99 kPa (8 in-H 2 O) and pass the leak test? Yes No GO to HX46 . REMOVE the EVAP System Leak Tester from the evaporative test port and REINSTALL the test port cap. GO to HX50 .

Apr 15, 2009 | 1999 Lincoln Town Car

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My taurus failed due to code p0442 ecap emiss ctl sys leak detected (small leak)


    Continuous Memory Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) P0442 indicates that a fuel vapor leak has been detected [as small as 0.10 cm (0.04 inch)] in the Evaporative Emission (EVAP) system.
    Note: Prior to performing the following diagnosis inspect the Canister Vent Solenoid (CV) for contamination. A situation may exist where contamination holds open the Canister Vent (CV) solenoid enough to set DTC P0442 and also plugs the port to atmosphere enough to keep system from being vented quickly.
    • After market parts and accessories nonconforming to the EVAP system specifications.
    • Damaged, cross threaded or loosely installed fuel filler cap.
    • Small holes or cuts in fuel vapor hoses/tubes (EVAP canister tube, EVAP canister outlet tube or EVAP return tube) in the EVAP system.
    • Loose fuel vapor hose/tube connections to EVAP system components.
    • EVAP system component [EVAP canister purge valve, fuel tank pressure (FTP) sensor, canister vent (CV) solenoid, fuel vapor control valve tube assembly or fuel vapor vent valve assembly] seals leaking.
    • CV solenoid partially open when commanded closed.
    • EVAP canister leaking.
  • Check for presence of fuel filler cap.
  • Verify that the CV solenoid is properly seated on the EVAP canister (if possible).
  • Visually inspect for cut or loose connections to fuel vapor hoses/tubes in following locations:
    • EVAP canister to EVAP canister purge valve.
    • EVAP canister to fuel vapor vent valve assembly.
    • fuel vapor control valve tube assembly to fuel tank (if applicable).

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