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1992 ranger 2.3l timing is at 23btc, supposed to be 10 btc. Removed spout connector from DIS and timing moved to 15btc and truck runs better. replace spout connector and it returns to 23 btc. checked timing belt, it's ok and the marks line up on the cam and crank. trouble codes that came up where TPS (replaced it) and IAC (replaced it). though i don;t believe would have anything to do with timing.

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With the SPOUT jumper removed the timing should be 10BTDC, 15BTDC is close - maybe you should check it again to be sure you aren't misreading the timing mark? If you still think the timing isn't right, you can compare the SPOUT signal to the PIP (Pre Ingnition Pickup) signal which is always 10 BTDC and should match the SPOUT when the jumper is removed. Other than that, 23 BTDC is about normal so I think if it is not running optimally, your problem lies elsewhere, especially since there no DTCs related to the ignition system. Feel free to email me if you have any more questions at: zach.a.harris@gmail.com. Hope that helps.

Z. Harris
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Posted on Aug 29, 2010

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