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2000 Chrysler Grand Caravan, replaced the front driver brake caliper, the brake lines from the master cylinder to the ABS and the rubber hose from the caliper to the brake line, bled all the brakes but the pedal is still going to the floor to stop the van. It stops but not fast enough for if someone stops fast in front of me. What could be the prob??

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I suggest a bad master cylinder, but 1st answer this, when you apply brakes firmly and keep pressure on the brake pedal, does pedal go down while you're holding pressure on the pedal? if so, the master cylinders bad. and also have you checked the vacum to the brake booster?

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