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Ferrari 458 with on screen message that says "Incomplete Vehicle Data Contact Dealer". No other lights on instrument cluster and vehicle runs perfects. All functions of vehicle are working. What does this mean?

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The dealer is just going to replace the cluster because they don't have the ability to fix it.
My suggestion is to get a used one from a wrecker. Note that if the odometer is included, you may need to document actual mileage for future reference..
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no other way to solve it but replace it, sad thing is no second hand clusters available (in Manila). Purchase directly from your Mercedes Benz dealer. This will solve your problem, in a quite costly way.

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SOURCE: 2004 GMC Yukon. Speedometer is reading much

If you have cruise control in the vehicle you can test to see if it's the speed sensor or the cluster. If cruise control works, the problem is in the cluster not with the sensor. And it's most likely the stepper motor issue.

There was not a recall, but there was a class action settlement where GM agreed to extend the warranty on certain vehicles for this problem. Check www.gmspeedometerrecall.com to see if you qualify.

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theft alarm light on.the car dosent start

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Where are all the ground wires located on a 2008 chevy cobalt?


It wouldn't be a ground problem If it were the whole instrument cluster would be dead . Checking the BCM an the IPC for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes is the proper way to diagnose this type problem . Not worrying about grounds .
Odometer
The vehicle odometer is calculated and stored electronically in the body control module (BCM) and is sent via the serial data circuit to the instrument panel cluster (IPC) for display. The BCM calculates and stores the mileage based on the vehicle speed serial data information from the PCM/ECM. The IPC displays the season odometer information from the BCM in the driver information center (DIC). The odometer will display error if the IPC detects an invalid odometer data from the BCM. After an invalid odometer data is received from the BCM, the IPC will display the last known odometer reading for 1.5 seconds before error is displayed in the DIC.
Speedometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the vehicle speed based on serial data message from the body control module (BCM). The BCM receives vehicle speed data from the PCM/ECM via the serial data circuit. The speedometer will default to 0 km/h (0 mph) if:
• The PCM/ECM detects a malfunction in the vehicle speed sensor circuit.
• The BCM detects a loss of serial data communications with the PCM/ECM.
• The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the BCM.

Your best bet would be to take it to the dealer !

Apr 19, 2017 | 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt

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My speedometer acts like the rpm tach i toke wires off output and input sensors indivdually and stop could one one oif those sensors be bad


What make , model and year vehicle ? Most vehicles the VSS - vehicle speed sensor is a input to the engine computer (PCM/ECM) The PCM sends a message via a serial data communication network to the instrument cluster ,which interpits the message and controls the speedometer ! If the VSS was bad the transmission wouldn't shift correctly . Is the check engine light lit on the instrument cluster.

Jan 13, 2017 | Cars & Trucks

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2003 Ford ka what colour is the wire for the alternator warning light on dash cluster


There isn't one ! This vehicle relies on serial data communication . The PCM sends an message on the data bus to the microprocessor inside the instrument cluster . The PCM controls the operation of the charging system warning indicator in the instrument cluster. The PCM is therefore responsible for turning the warning indicator off after the engine is started and illuminating it under fault conditions (when the generator is not generating the correct amount of current with the engine running). The warning indicator will also be illuminated by the PCM at key ON engine OFF, and stall conditions.
Charging System Warning Indicator
The instrument cluster receives the charging system status from the PCM over the SCP or CAN communication network. The PCM controls the charging system and the charging system warning indicator. The PCM is therefore responsible for turning the lamp off once the system is running and illuminating it under fault conditions (including stall conditions).
How to Diagnose Controller Area Network CAN Your best bet would be to take your vehicle to a qualified repair shop .

Jun 23, 2016 | 2003 Ford Focus

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I have a 2010 Chevy impala LS instrument cluster and it has a 20 pin plug I'm trying to figure out which wire's on the back of the cluster are for the speed sensor, rpm, gas, and temp wires.


Boy your way off base . All the gauges are inputs from the ECM - engine computer . The VSS - vehicle speed sensor , ETC - engine coolant temp sensor , sending unit in the fuel tank , All this sensors input the engine computer . The PCM then sends this info on the GMLAN serial data bus ,communications network . The Instrument cluster has a microprocessor inside that translates this info an controls the gauges. You probably have an instrument cluster problem or a communication network problem . Your best bet is to take your vehicle to the dealer or some other qualified repair shop. Need to have it checked for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes.
Indicators and Warning Messages
Refer to Indicator/Warning Message Description and Operation.
Engine Coolant Temperature Gage
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the engine coolant temperature as determined by the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the ECM indicating the engine coolant temperature. The IPC receives the coolant temperature information via serial data message from the body control module (BCM). The engine coolant temperature gage defaults to 60?°C (140?°F) or below if:
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The ECM detects a malfunction in the engine coolant temperature sensor circuit.

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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the ECM.

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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the BCM.
Fuel Gage
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the fuel level as determined by the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the ECM indicating the fuel level percent. The body control module (BCM) sends the fuel level information from the ECM to the IPC via a serial data message indicating the fuel level percent. The fuel gage defaults to empty if:
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The ECM detects a malfunction in the fuel level sensor circuit.

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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the ECM.

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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the BCM.
When the fuel level is less than a pre-determined value, the low fuel indicator illuminates in the IPC.
Odometer
The vehicle odometer is calculated and stored electronically in the instrument panel cluster (IPC). The IPC contains a season odometer and trip odometer A or B. Momentarily press the trip/fuel button in order to toggle between the season odometer and the trip odometer. Press the set/reset button for greater than 0.25 seconds, while the trip odometer is displayed, in order to reset the trip odometer. The IPC displays the vehicle mileage and trip mileage as determined by the engine control module (ECM). The IPC calculates the mileage based on the serial data vehicle speed information from the ECM. The odometer will display 'error' if an internal IPC memory failure is detected. The odometer displays either miles or kilometers and can be set through the customization menu in the driver information center (DIC).
PRNDL Display
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the selected gear position as determined by the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the ECM indicating the gear position. The PRNDL display blanks if:
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The ECM detects a malfunction in the transmission range switch circuit.

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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the ECM.

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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the body control module (BCM).
Speedometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the vehicle speed as determined by the engine control module (ECM). The IPC calculates the mileage based on serial data vehicle speed information from the ECM. The IPC receives vehicle speed information from the body control module (BCM) via a serial data message. The speedometer defaults to 0 km/h (0 mph) if the IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the ECM or BCM.
Tachometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the engine speed as determined by the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the ECM indicating the engine speed. The IPC receives the engine speed information from the body control module (BCM) via a serial data message. The tachometer will default to 0 RPM if:
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The ECM detects a malfunction in the engine speed sensor circuit.

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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the ECM.

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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the BCM.

How to Diagnose Controller Area Network CAN Suggest you read up on C.A.N.

May 14, 2016 | Cars & Trucks

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While driving antitheft light comes on and all the gauges go flat,car keeps runnig,want to disable system,not sure what to look for


Before doing something drastic ,have it checked out for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes . It may not be the anti-theft system ,gauges going flat would be more like a communication problem between modules . PCM / BCM / instrument cluster etc.. That also could cause theft light coming on . If your not sure what to look for ,take it to a ASE certified professional . You may render your vehicle useless if you don't know what your doing .
Serial Data Power Mode Master
On vehicles that have several control modules connected by serial data circuits, one module is the power mode master (PMM). On this vehicle, the PMM is the body control module (BCM). The PMM receives 3 discrete ignition switch signals to differentiate which power mode will be sent over the Serial Data circuits. The 3-wire Ignition Switch table below illustrates the state of these inputs in correspondence to the ignition switch position:
Serial Data Messages The modules that depend exclusively on serial data messages for power modes. stay in the state dictated by the last valid PMM message until they can check for the engine run flag status on the serial data circuits. If the PMM fails, the modules monitor the serial data circuit for the engine run flag serial data. If the engine run flag serial data is True, indicating that the engine is running, the modules fail-safe to RUN. In this state, the modules and their subsystems can support all operator requirements. If the engine run flag serial data is False, indicating that the engine is not running, the modules fail-safe to OFF-AWAKE. In this state, the modules are constantly checking for a change status message on the serial data circuits and can respond to both local inputs and serial data inputs from other modules on the vehicle.
Indicators and Warning Messages
Refer to Indicator/Warning Message Description and Operation .
Engine Coolant Temperature Gage
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the engine coolant temperature as determined by the powertrain control module (PCM) or the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the PCM/ECM indicating the engine coolant temperature. The engine coolant temperature gage defaults to 38?°C (100?°F) if:
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The PCM/ECM detects a malfunction in the engine coolant temperature sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications from the BCM.

Fuel Gage
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the fuel level as determined by the powertrain control module (PCM) or the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the body control module (BCM) indicating the fuel level. The fuel gage defaults to E (empty) if:
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The PCM/ECM detects a malfunction in the fuel level sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications from the BCM.

When the fuel level is less than 14 percent, the low fuel indicator illuminates.
Odometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) contains a season odometer and a trip odometer. Momentarily press the trip/reset switch in order to toggle between the season odometer and the trip odometer. Press the trip/reset switch for greater than 2 seconds, while the trip odometer is displayed, in order to reset the trip odometer. The odometer is calculated and stored electronically in the body control module (BCM). The BCM uses the vehicle speed information from the powertrain control module (PCM) to calculate the odometer. The odometer displays 'error' if an internal IPC memory failure is detected. The IPC stores a backup copy of the odometer value incase the IPC stops receiving a valid odometer value from the BCM.
Speedometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the vehicle speed based on the information from the ECM/PCM. The IPC receives the vehicle speed information from the BCM via the serial data circuit. The speedometer defaults to 0 kmh (0 mph) when the following occurs:
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The powertrain control module (PCM) or the engine control module (ECM) detects a malfunction in the vehicle speed sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communication from the BCM.

Tachometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the engine speed as determined by the powertrain control module (PCM) or the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the body control module (BCM) indicating the engine speed. The tachometer will default to 0 RPM if:
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The PCM/ECM detects a malfunction in the engine speed sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communication from the BCM.

Apr 07, 2016 | 2006 Pontiac G6

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2003 4500. Why have gauges stopped working?


You could have anyone of a number of different problems . I know your year vehicle falls in the range of GM instrument culster problems . There are little stepper motors ( electric motors ) that make the gauges move . There could be DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes stored in the instrument cluster . An you have to know how the instrument cluster knows how much to move the needles on the gauges . All the input sensors to the PCM/ECM - engine computer vehicle speed sensor , fuel pressure , oil pressure , etc... All the modules on the truck are hooked together on a serial data communication network .The PCM/ECM sends this information out on the data bus for the other moduels that need the info .
Engine Oil Pressure (EOP) Gage
The IPC displays the engine oil pressure on the analog EOP gage as determined by the PCM. The PCM monitors the signal circuit of the EOP sensor. When the EOP sensor resistance is high, the engine oil pressure is high. When the EOP sensor resistance is low, the engine oil pressure is low. The IPC receives a class 2 message from the PCM indicating the engine oil pressure. The EOP gage defaults to 0 kPa (0 psi) when the following conditions occur:
• The PCM detects a malfunction in the engine oil pressure sensor signal circuit. Refer to Diagnostic System Check - Instrument Cluster .
• The IPC detects a loss of class 2 communication with the PCM.
Speedometer
The IPC displays the vehicle speed on the analog speedometer based on the vehicle speed signal from the PCM. The PCM converts the data from the vehicle speed sensor to a 4000 pulses/mile signal. The IPC uses the vehicle speed signal circuit from the PCM in order to calculate the vehicle speed.
The powertrain control module (PCM) creates the vehicle speed signal by pulsing the signal circuit to ground at a rate of 4K PPM. The instrument panel cluster (IPC) converts the 4K PPM signal to a speedometer position. The IPC also receives a class 2 message from the PCM indicating the vehicle speed. The IPC uses this class 2 message for diagnostic purposes.
There could be up to twenty different DTC'S stored ,here is an a for instance
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DTC B1365
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) uses the ignition 0 voltage circuit in order to supply voltage to various indicators and gages. The IPC also receives a class 2 message from the serial data gateway module (SDGM) indicating the current power mode. Your best bet would be to take your vehicle to the Dealer or an ASE certified independant repair shop .

Dec 21, 2015 | 2003 Chevrolet Express

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My dash in my 2006 canyon isn't working, can't find the problem


Did you have the vehicle hooked to a factory scan tool to see if it will talk to the scan tool . Your instrument cluster is electronic an has a microprocessor inside , it is connected on the serial data communication network or bus as it is called . It's hard to find a problem when you don't know how it works >
All the gauges in the instrument cluster receive there info from the ECM - BCM engine an body computers on the data bus .
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the vehicle speed based on the information from the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the BCM indicating the vehicle speed.
PRND321 Display
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the selected gear position as determined by the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the ECM indicating the gear position. The PRND321 display blanks if:
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The ECM detects a malfunction in the transmission range switch circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications with the BCM.


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The BCM detects a loss of serial data communications with the ECM.


This you should take to a ASE qualified repair facility or the dealer ! It is possible to short out the data bus an bring down the system , meaning nothing on the vehicle will work !

Sep 24, 2015 | Cars & Trucks

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I have a 04 tahoe and at times when i turn the ignition on the gauges don't move and when I'm driving they will jump on and off can someone explain this


If it is all the gauges , I would pull the instrument cluster an check the connections on the back of the instrument cluster . I would also check power an grounds , you would need to find a pin out chat to do this. If you don't know what that is , It's just a diagram of the connector show what each terminal is for ! Also do a wiggle test on the wiring ! Do the dash lights do the same thing ?

All the gauge settings are information determined by the PCM - engine computer , the info is sent to the instrument cluster by a serial data communication network !
Speedometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the vehicle speed on the analog speedometer based on the vehicle speed signal from the powertrain control module (PCM). The PCM converts the data from the vehicle speed sensor to a 4,000 pulses/mile signal. The IPC uses the vehicle speed signal circuit from the PCM in order to calculate the vehicle speed.
The speedometer defaults to 0 km/h (0 mph) if a malfunction in the vehicle speed signal circuit exists.
Tachometer
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the engine speed on the analog tachometer based on the engine speed signal from the powertrain control module (PCM). The IPC uses the engine speed signal circuit -- 2 pulses/engine revolution -- from the PCM in order to calculate the engine speed.
The tachometer defaults to 0 RPM if a malfunction in the engine speed signal circuit exists
Voltmeter
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the system voltage as determined by the body control module (BCM). The IPC receives a class 2 message from the BCM indicating the battery voltage. When the engine is ON, the gage should be between 10-16 volts.
PRNDL Display
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the selected gear position as determined by the powertrain control module (PCM). The IPC receives a class 2 message from the PCM indicating the gear position. The PRNDL display blanks if:
Fuel Gage
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the fuel level as determined by the powertrain control module (PCM). The IPC receives a class 2 message from the PCM indicating the fuel level percent. The fuel gage defaults to empty if:
Engine Coolant Temperature Gage
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the engine coolant temperature as determined by the powertrain control module (PCM). The IPC receives a class 2 message from the PCM indicating the engine coolant temperature. The engine coolant temperature gage defaults to 75?°C (160?°F) or below when:
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The PCM detects a malfunction in the engine coolant temperature sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of class 2 communication with the PCM.


The data link connector (DLC) allows a scan tool to communicate with the class 2 serial data line. The serial data line is the means by which the microprocessor-controlled modules in the vehicle communicate with each other. Once the scan tool is connected to the class 2 serial data line through the DLC, the scan tool can be used to monitor each module for diagnostic purposes and to check for diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs). Class 2 serial data is transmitted on a single wire at an average of 10.4 kbps. This value is an average, class 2 uses a variable pulse width modulation to carry data and depending on the message it may operate faster or slower. The bus will float at a nominal 7.0 volts during normal operation. Each module can pull this lower during the transmission. The bus is not at battery positive voltage or ground potential during normal operation. When the ignition switch is in RUN, each module communicating on the class 2 serial data line sends a state of health (SOH) message every 2 seconds to ensure that the module is operating properly. When a module stops communicating on the class 2 serial data line, for example if the module loses power or ground, the SOH message it normally sends on the data line every 2 seconds disappears. Other modules on the class 2 serial data line, which expect to receive that SOH message, detect its absence; those modules in turn set an internal DTC associated with the loss of SOH of the non-communicating module. The DTC is unique to the module which is not communicating, for example, when the inflatable restraint sensing and diagnostic module (SDM) SOH message disappears, several modules set DTC U1088. Note that a loss of serial data DTC does not normally represent a failure of the module that set it.
You may want to take this to a ASE certified repair shop or " oh no " The Chevy dealer ! I don't know why people dislike the dealer so much . I worked at one for a number of years an we had a good bunch of technicians ! No body knows your GM vehicle better !

Aug 31, 2015 | Cars & Trucks

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My speedomeeter is not working hiw can i fix it


What make , model an year ? All instrument clusters are electronic now ! More then likely speedometer gauge is bad ,which means the instrument cluster needs replacing ! Vehicles have a (VSS)vehicle speed sensor in the transmission or uses a wheel speed sensor for the ABS as a input to one of the control modules , PCM or EBCM .Which then sends a message over the CAN data bus ,where the instrument clusters processor deciphers the info an sets the speedometer ! If your not familiar with this things I said here , your better off taking to a ASE certified repair shop or dealer !

Jul 27, 2015 | Cars & Trucks

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My 2002 put cruiser reads no bus in ?the odomator display even with ?the key off and out also dash lights flash off and on


The no bus message means one of the control modules isn't communicating on the data bus or isn't working ! I don't know how many modules yours has but ,if it has antilock brakes an I know it has air bags , an PCM - engine transmission computer , the instrument cluster has a control module an all these modules are on a serial data communication network , there share information ! The speedometer gets it's info from the VSS vehicle speed sensor through the PCM over the bus to the instrument cluster same with coolant temperature ! So I would have it taken to the dealer if you don't know about this stuff ! Need special tools to test this 2004 Chrysler Sebring No Bus message in cluster testing

Apr 15, 2015 | 2002 Chrysler PT Cruiser

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