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Installing a t-10 tranny into 84 camaro. slave from car doesnt throw enough, extending slave rod doesnt help, still short throw

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  • dtasker2 Aug 21, 2010

    this also has an old school bell housing(new), but has original type hydrolics. slave only has about 1/2- 3/4 inch of travel. had to fabricate a mount for the slave cylinder.

  • dtasker2 Aug 21, 2010

    yes I can probably get closer but the travel is still the same, it self adjusts. All clutch parts are brand new and aligned.

  • dtasker2 Aug 21, 2010

    thanks for your input

  • dtasker2 Aug 21, 2010

    the 3rd gen camaros had so many ditterent options for a bell housing, so I've noticed trying to find answers. I've even cut out floor board to allow for fork travel with this style bell housing and fork. I've noticed some have the fork coming out the side and some down at an angle, some fit 4 spds and some fit 5 spds, but I dont think any will fit this tranny. Is this what I'm up against and if so would you know witch one to go with or is there something I can do with what I have? is there an adjustment in the fork? something different I can do with my master or slave cylinder? the fork needs to travel more I do know that. Thanks

  • dtasker2 Aug 21, 2010

    I bought this transmission rebuilt it is from the early 60s. I assume it was all linkage not hydrolics. This car has no room for linkage. The master cylider bolts through the firewall of this car. How can I change that? I can change the slave on it because it is a homemade mount.

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Here is a chart to see what years trans this fits into
http://www.f-body.org/tech/tech.htm

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My first suggestion would be to consider using the slave and master from the vehicle the t-10 came out of.
That is assuming that the length of the throwout fork and arm are what makes the main difference, and not the pressure plate.

But in general you need to understand the way the slave and master work together.
The wider diameter the master, the more fluid it pushes, so the shorter the throw needs to be, but it will be harder to push.
Conversely, the wider the slave is, the more fluid it requires for any movement, so it will need a longer throw, but be easier to push.
It is like a pulley or gear ratio.
By choosing the 2 cylinder diameters, you can make the pedal short but hard, or long but easy. Also then the output stroke can be long or short.

Getting back to your case, a larger diameter master and a smaller diameter slave will make the pedal harder to push, but greatly increase the throw for any movement on the pedal.
But if you over do it, not only can it be very hard to push, but the slave piston could pop out and blow fluid.
Which is why I suggest going back to what you know worked on the t-10 originally.

Posted on Aug 21, 2010

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Can the slave cylinder be relocated a bit closer to the fork.... also is the pressure plate(fingers or diaphram type) distorted, is the clutch disc and throw out bearing worn out or miss aligned? Also check the fork and the pivot to see if it is bent or worn that whole linkage deal needs to be tight any worn parts will throw the whole clutch out of align.
May have to pull the tranny back out to recheck everything from scratch....make sure the motor and trans. mounts are in shape.
Happy Hunting

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  • JOHN DAVIDSON Aug 21, 2010

    I am out of guess work here, the clutch assembly is all new that only leaves one thing the hydraulics, may be the slave location??? Or is there a problem with the bell??

    Sorry i can't be sure on this from afar...it is going to be hard enough being there trying to find it.

    Trial and error.

  • JOHN DAVIDSON Aug 23, 2010

    Back in the day that Warner T 10 was an all linkage set up using Hurst Shifter linkage and hydraulic clutches were for kids....lol.... try calling on a place in Lindenhurst New York, 11757 called S&K Speed Shop, they may have an answere, I know the old original Bells were all the same, the fork clipped unto it from a side mount position and the throw out clipped into the fork, when we had clutch throw problems most all of the time it was the "Z" Bar, the linkage that ran from the frame to the block or bell housing it rotated on a ball system on each end, sometimes the ball/bushings wore out or sometimes the welds would crack on the arms on this part changing the linkage adjustment.

    Also throughout the years I found that If i replaced an entire clutch the pressure plte being a reman would have been cut to eliminate any old grooves etc and that would be bad for clutch adjustments.

    Make sure your clutch master is pumping out fluid and make sure you bleed any air out of the system as well, pull back the slave boot shouldn't be any hydraulic fluid in the bore if so the seal is leaking allowing fluid out and or air in.

    The fork and the location of the slave cylinder have to be right on a nats a$$ otherweise you are never going to get a good shift and always will grind the gears and syncro's.

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