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Posted on Aug 20, 2010

My left rear directional is out, i replaced the bulb but it still won't work - do i need to replace the brake light

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Make sure you have the correct bulb for the vehicle. If so check
for power at bulb with tester. Also, if you have a trailer hitch
wiring kit on it may have corrosion build up at connector.

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no country told, lighting (for sure external) are not the same all over earth, sorry I do not make laws (like DOT USA?) or anywhere.
this forum is www, a world wide web forum. so where are you ,a country.?
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and no scan tool? wow endless guessing done. throwing parts wild.
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that melting thing means a lamp shorted. (they can)
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the car has 4 corners, why not tell what all 4 do when Turns or parks fail.?>??? what they all do outside matters most. (electrics)

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searching the online service manual for you.
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