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I have a Ford Focus 1.8 TDI 2000, i was driving down the motorway today when it gave a massive **** and lost power. i dropped a gear and the revs went up, but yet no power to the car which by the time i got to the hard shoulder had died. The radio and all electronics are working, brand new battery. Turned key to try start, the starter motor was going anyway and it was trying to start but with no joy. Oil light came on also, checked under the car and there was a puddle of oil and a trail from the middle of the road. What would this be and how serious is it? Is it timing belt??

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    Alex Jarema Aug 05, 2010

    If you dropped the gear and revs went up you would hear a big bang and your engine would be as good as scrap, have a look around the turbo for the turbo charger damage, it tried to start but without the oil pressure which might be problem with the oil pump as well the computer will not let the engine start, also if the turbo is gone there will be very little air flow going into the combustion so again the computer would not start the engine.

  • eoin_o_d Aug 05, 2010

    there wasn't a big bang the car just gave a big jolt before it died. The revs didnt go crazy i jus dropped a gear just thinking id done something wrong and it looked fine on the dash just no actually power going to the car. Accelerator did nothing. Would you say it's more than likely turbo problem or is it possible Timing belt broke? also why and where would all the oil have come from! it's coming from near the belt as far as i can see, everything up top around turbo etc seems to look fine.

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Well than it might be that something went wrong with the timing area, oil could come from one of the cam seals, the only option is to remove the top cover for the timing belt and have a look at it, as well as some engines have the injector pump driven by the timing belt or gear and it could have been as well your injector pump gone, it is difficult to say not seeing. If the belt is ok you're lucky if not than better get a new car cause to get this kind of a job done well costs more than the whole car. Let me know how it looks like or if its possible attach some photos.

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  • eoin_o_d Aug 05, 2010

    thanks for your help again..ya the injector pump is driven by the belt, the thing is i only just got the belts changed like 2 weeks ago so it's quite coincidental that this happens just now, perhaps the belts were not done properly, would this cause it? if so, then the garage is liable for the damages am i right? i will try get some images up in the mean time and get a better look at the lot. what sort of damage could possibly be caused if it is due to the belt? or on the flip side if it;s not the belt? or is there too many possibilities without seeing some images??

  • Alex Jarema
    Alex Jarema Aug 05, 2010

    Need the pics for valuation, if its the belt than yes the garage has to cover the damage to the engine as they can claim it from the supplier of the belt. If not the belt than still they had done the job and they should re-do it under warranty.

  • eoin_o_d Aug 06, 2010

    Turbow blew, and broke Crank or Cam shaft,not sure what he said..Neighbour who is mechanic looked at it. Oil all came from there. Needs new engine he says..disaster!

  • Alex Jarema
    Alex Jarema Aug 06, 2010

    If it is the turbo and cam shaft it is not a big deal, if its crank shaft ( I don't think so) than you need the new engine.

  • eoin_o_d Aug 06, 2010

    it was crank shaft! All oil leaked into turbo which blew, and crank shaft broke! does that make sense????

  • eoin_o_d Aug 06, 2010

    what is the relationship between the turbo and the crank and camshaft? aren't the crank and camshaft all on the timing belt? is it likely that the turbo blew causing all the damage, or does it sound like its an excuse for a badly replaced timing belt which caused all of the damage? thanks again for all your help...feel like i might be getting ripped off here!

  • Alex Jarema
    Alex Jarema Aug 06, 2010

    The crank shaft can brake only if it is material fault or the car lost oil and the crank ran dry. One scenario would be that it was the turbo that blew which caused the engine to lose oil rapidly but that does not explain why you did not get the dashboard warning of low oil pressure which normally would happen in that case. The other possibility is that during the timing belt removal one of the seals could have been damaged ( the one on the crank) as a result of taking the pulley off. It is not visible during the process but it can crack and leak oil intensively at high engine speed (motorway driving), which results in oil pressure to be fine in the engine for a while but no feed of oil to turbo and that's how turbo blew off, the engine than lost its oil which resulted in the crank to break as well. The dashboard would light up only at the last second. This is the only relation between turbo and crank shaft.Oil cannot get into turbo from the crankshaft itself as it is fed by oil pipe, unless you get a piston damage and oil gets into it via the combustion chamber down the exhaust valve.

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