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Rear lamp failure warning light comes on continuesly when key is turned on and brake pedal is applied before engine is started.

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08 Buick lucerne cxl. Third brake light works as well as front signal lights. No rear brake lights or turn signals. Tail lights and headlights and third brake lights works. Bulbs good. Help


Stop Lamps
The brake pedal position sensor is used to sense the action of the driver application of the brake pedal. The body control module (BCM) provides a 5-volt reference voltage and low reference to the brake pedal position sensor. The position sensor provides an analog voltage signal back to the BCM that will increase as the brake pedal is applied. When the brake is applied, the BCM will then apply battery voltage to the left and right stop/turn signal lamp supply voltage circuits and the center high mounted stop lamp (CHMSL) supply voltage circuit illuminating the stop lamps. At the same time the BCM applies battery voltage through the signal circuit to the transmission control module (TCM) and the engine control module (ECM) indicating that the brakes are applied.
Ground for the stop lamps is supplied as follows:
• G402 provides ground for the left rear stop/tail/turn signal lamps
• G403 provides ground for the right rear stop/tail/turn signal lamps
• G301 provides ground for the CHMSL
The stop lamps on this vehicle will not illuminate unless the ignition is in the accessory, run, or crank positions. When the ignition is in the OFF position the stop lamps will not illuminate when the brake pedal is applied.
Battery voltage from the LT TRN/SIG and RT TRN/SIG fuses located in the rear fuse block is also used by the body control module (BCM) for stop lamp operation.

Turn Signal Lamps
Battery voltage supplied to the body control module (BCM) from the fuses listed below is used for turn signal and hazard lamp operation.
• LT TRN/SIG fuse for the left turn signals
• CTSY/RF TRN fuse for the right front turn signal
• RR TRN/SIG fuse for the right rear turn signal
When the turn signal switch is place in either the LEFT or RIGHT position, ground from G300 is applied through the turn signal switch signal circuit to the BCM indicating the turn signal request. In response to this signal, the BCM applies a pulsating voltage to the front and rear turn signal lamps supply voltage circuits cycling the lamps ON and OFF. At the same time the BCM sends a GMLAN serial data message to the instrument panel cluster (IPC) to cycle the appropriate turn signal indicator ON and OFF.
Ground for the turn signal lamps is supplied as follows:
• G104 provides ground for the left and right front turn signal lamps
• G402 provides ground for the left rear stop/tail/turn signal lamps
• G403 provides ground for the right rear stop/tail/turn signal lamps

Do you have a factory scan tool (tech2) ? Your best bet , take it to the dealer .

Sep 08, 2017 | Buick Cars & Trucks

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07 cadillac cts has no brake light all fuses are good and replace the brake switch.still not working any advice


Stop Lamps
The brake pedal position sensor is a resistive device used to sense the action of the driver's application of the brake pedal. The brake pedal position sensor provides an analog signal that will increase as the brake pedal is pressed.
The brake pedal position sensor receives both a 5-volt reference voltage and a low reference signal from the electronic brake control module (EBCM). When the brake pedal is pressed, a variable signal is applied from the brake pedal position sensor to the EBCM through the brake sensor signal circuit. The fuse block left rear supplies battery positive voltage to the bass relay switch through the BASS fuse. One side of the bass relay coil is permanently grounded at G402. The EBCM supplies voltage to the bass relay coil upon receiving the signal from the brake pedal position sensor. The switch contacts of the bass relay close and battery positive voltage is applied through the bass relay switch to the center high mounted stop lamp (CHMSL), and to the turn signal/hazard flasher module through the stop lamp switch signal circuit. The ground for the CHMSL is applied from G402. The turn signal/hazard flasher module then supplies voltage to the left and right stop lamps in the tail lamp assemblies that have ground at G401 and G402. For export vehicles the stop lamps receive battery positive voltage directly from the bass relay.

Do you know where the rear fuse box is ? Check BAS fuse 15amp. and the bas relay , should be marked on the inside of the fuse box lid . The rear fuse box is located

Fuse Block - Left Rear
In the passenger compartment, under the left side of the rear seat at carpet
Power and Grounding Component Views
Electrical Center Identification Views
Fuse Block - Right Rear
In the passenger compartment, under the right side of the rear seat at carpet.

If fuse and relay are ok your best would be to take to a cadillac dealer .

Jan 19, 2017 | Cadillac Cars & Trucks

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I have a 2002 Grand Cherokee, and the brake warning light comes on at ignition, and stays on. What could be causing this?


omg what country, and which lamp there is not just one lamp.
"brake indicator used for vehicles manufactured
for the United States consists of the word
"BRAKE" imprinted on a red lens"
and
The Rest-Of-World
(ROW) market version of this indicator has two
International Control and Display Symbol icons
imprinted on the red lens; one is the icon for "Brake
Failure", and the other is the icon for "Parking
Brake".

why not read the manual first, or is guessing how it works fun?

posted it like 300 times now.
again, on one RED BRAKE warning lamp. (not ABS)
WJ jeep 99-04
see brakes chapter 3 covers it all.
the diffr pressure valve sets the red brake light on





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"The parking brake switch is in circuit with the red
warning lamp in the dash.
The switch will cause the
lamp to illuminate only when the parking brakes are
applied. If the lamp remains on after parking brake
release, the switch or wires are faulty.
If the red lamp comes on a fault has occurred in
the front or rear brake hydraulic system.
If the red warning lamp and yellow warning lamp
come on, the electronic brake distribution may be at
fault.
In most cases, the actual cause of an improperly
functioning parking brake (too loose/too tight/won't
hold), can be traced to a parking brake component."
so unplug it to see that its not CAUSE.



parting shot, i make sure all red lamp devices are unplugged
1 by 1 to know which one is tripping, the lamp.
then after bleeded, I step on the brake pedal real hard.
100lbs or more
and this will centralize the DIFF VALVE NOW>
if not the brakes have air in the system.
or the DIFF VALVE is seized.
they can stick so, learn the MONSTER FOOT brake test./
use max brake pedal pressure now.

there is a parking lamp too. that glows and will warn of low fluid levels.
are you working on the car with no scan tool?
is yes, then you miss out on all those brake error DTCs
dont you... and work totally blind

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Nov 07, 2016 | 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee

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Where's is the fuse located for my brake lights on my 2007 Pontiac g6 and rear defrost fuse


Stop Lamps
your br
The brake pedal position sensor is used to sense the action of the driver application of the brake pedal. The brake pedal position sensor provides an analog voltage signal that will increase as the brake pedal is applied. The body control module (BCM) provides a low reference signal and a 5-volt reference voltage to the brake pedal position sensor. When the variable signal reaches a voltage threshold indicating the brakes have been applied, the BCM will apply battery positive voltage to the stop lamps, transmission control module (TCM), engine control module (ECM), and stop lamp relay coil side. When the stop lamp relay receives battery voltage from the BCM, the relay coil is energized and the stop lamp relay switch contacts close applying battery voltage through the STOP LP fuse to illuminate the center high mounted stop lamp (CHMSL).
I'd say you have more then a bad fuse ,just reading how the brake lights function .You should have it hooked up to a professional grade scan tool ,one that can check for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes in the BCM - body control module !
  1. Install a scan tool.
  2. Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
  3. With a scan tool, observe the Brake Pedal Position Sensor parameter in the data list for the body control module (BCM).
  4. Apply and release the brake pedal.
Does the scan tool display a change in the voltage?

DTC B3903 Stop Lamp Relay Circuit DTC C0277 Brake Pedal Position Sensor Circuit
DTC C0278
Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle?
Go to Step 2
Go to Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle

2

  1. Install a scan tool.
  2. Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
Does the scan tool display DTC C0278 00?
Go to Step 3
Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections

3

Recalibrate the brake position sensor.

Circuit Description
DTC C0870
The body control module (BCM) applies a ground through the brake sensor reference low circuit to the brake pedal position (BPP) sensor. The BCM supplies a 5-volt reference through the brake sensor reference voltage circuit to the brake position sensor. When the brake pedal is being applied, the BPP sensor then sends a variable voltage signal through the brake sensor signal circuit to the BCM.
Circuit/System Verification
  1. Ignition ON, observe the scan tool Brake Lamp Cmd. parameter as you apply and unapply the brake pedal. The parameter should change between OFF and ON as the brake pedal is applied and released.
  2. ?‡'
    If the parameter does not change as the brake pedal is applied and released, refer to Brake Pedal Position Sensor (BPPS) Malfunction.

  3. With a scan tool, command the LR Stop/Turn Signal Lamp ON and OFF. The LR turn signal should turn ON and OFF when changing between the commanded states.
  4. ?‡'
    If the LR stop lamp does not illuminate when commanded, refer to Stop Lamps Malfunction.

  5. With a scan tool, command the RR Stop/Turn Signal Lamp ON and OFF. The RR turn signal should turn ON and OFF when changing between the commanded states.
?‡'
If the RR stop lamp does not illuminate when commanded, refer to Stop Lamps Malfunction.






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Where is the stop lamp or brake lamp fuse and panel for a 2007 cadillac cts?


Kevin , this is a very complex way of stoplamp control , I will post GM service Description and Operation of how they work an let you deside if you want to tackle this ! Do the center high mount brake lights work ?
The brake pedal position sensor is a resistive device used to sense the action of the driver's application of the brake pedal. The brake pedal position sensor provides an analog signal that will increase as the brake pedal is pressed.
The brake pedal position sensor receives both a 5-volt reference voltage and a low reference signal from the electronic brake control module (EBCM). When the brake pedal is pressed, a variable signal is applied from the brake pedal position sensor to the EBCM through the brake sensor signal circuit. The fuse block left rear supplies battery positive voltage to the bass relay switch through the BASS fuse. One side of the bass relay coil is permanently grounded at G402. The EBCM supplies voltage to the bass relay coil upon receiving the signal from the brake pedal position sensor. The switch contacts of the bas relay close and battery positive voltage is applied through the bas relay switch to the center high mounted stop lamp (CHMSL), and to the turn signal/hazard flasher module through the stop lamp switch signal circuit. The ground for the CHMSL is applied from G402. The turn signal/hazard flasher module then supplies voltage to the left and right stop lamps in the tail lamp assemblies that have ground at G401 and G402. For export vehicles the stop lamps receive battery positive voltage directly from the bass relay.

There could be a code stored in the EBCM - electronic brake control module - DTC B3903 Stop Lamp Relay Circuit
DTC C0278 Brake Pedal Position Sensor Not Calibrated
there are several other codes that pertane to the brake lights . you could try Replaceing the bas relay !
Fuse Block - Left Rear
In the passenger compartment, under the left side of the rear seat at carpet.

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Chevy tahoe rear wiper starts when brake applied


It sounds like a ground issue like the insulation is warn and making contact some ware more than likely around the back door

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No tail lights


Power comes from 15A fuse 28 in the fuse junction panel. If 15A fuse 20 in the battery junction box is OK, Turning the headlamp switch to PARK position applies power to the park filaments of the combination rear park/stop lamps. Pressing the brake pedal applies 12V to the hi-mount stop lights and the stop filaments of the combination rear park/stop lamps.

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2009 Impala rear lights not working


Turn Signal Lamps
The LT T/SIG and RT T/SIG fuses located in the underhood fuse block supplies battery positive voltage to the body control module (BCM) for turn signal and hazard lamp operation. When the turn signal switch is place in either the LEFT or RIGHT position, ground from G202 is applied through the turn signal switch signal circuit to the BCM indicating the turn signal request. In response to this signal, the BCM applies a pulsating voltage to the front and rear turn signal lamps supply voltage circuits cycling the lamps ON and OFF. The BCM also sends a message via GMLAN to the instrument panel cluster (IPC) to cycle the turn signal indicator ON and OFF depending on the position of the turn signal switch.
Ground for the turn signal lamps is supplied as follows:
• G101 provides ground for the left front turn signal lamp
• G100 provides ground for the right front turn signal lamp
• G302 provides ground for the left and right rear turn signal lamps

The LT T/SIG and RT T/SIG fuses located in the underhood fuse block are also used by the body control module (BCM) for stop lamp operation.
The brake pedal position sensor is used to sense the action of the driver application of the brake pedal. The body control module (BCM) provides both, a 5-volt reference voltage and low reference to the brake pedal position sensor. The position sensor provides an analog voltage signal back to the BCM that will increase as the brake pedal is applied. When the brake pedal is applied, the BCM will then apply battery voltage to the left and right stop lamp supply voltage circuits and the center high mounted stop lamp (CHMSL) supply voltage circuit illuminating the stop lamps. At the same time the BCM signals the transmission control module (TCM) and the engine control module (ECM) that the brakes are applied. Ground for all stop lamps is provided at G302.
The stop lamps on this vehicle will not illuminate unless the ignition is in the accessory, run, or crank positions. When the ignition is in the OFF position the stop lamps will not illuminate when the brake pedal is applied.

Did you check the fuse's. ? Wouldn't think it's a ground because right an left tail lamp Assembly's use same ground ! Did you check for B+ voltage at the bulb. with a volt meter ? Power is supplied by the BCM . Could be the tail lamp assembly

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How do I adjust the parking brake


Under the car on the drivers side you will see a threaded rod that goes through a saddle that goes off with two cables to the rear wheels, adjust the cable there using the adjustment nut.

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Hi there. my problem is every time i step on the brake an orange light on the dash appears. the symbol that keeps illuminating is a car with what looks like the rear lights on at the rear. can anybody...


Yes. The reason it looks like the lights on the rear of the car and the reason it comes on every time you are hitting your brakes, is because your lamp-out module is trying to tell you that you have a brake lamp that is not working. This is normal function if you ave a burned out bulb or a broken wire in your brake lamps. It does not set any codes, so there is nothing to "reset". Just fix the brake lamp and the warning lamp will go away.

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