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Re: Sunroof is stuck in up position. Is there a fuse, and...
Try removing the dome light console to access the motor drive. If you can feel or hear the motor run when you push the button, then there is a gear inside the drive that has stripped out. If this is the case, you can get a replacement gear at http://www.sunroofgears.com/ They have excellent instructions for the repair on their website, and the replacement gear they sell is a whole lot cheaper than a replacement drive.
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First off this is controlled by a module (computer) The switch would only have five volts . 5volt reference voltage from the control module . Not knowing how to test the electrical circuit's for this could be expensive . Short out the module or 5 volt ref. voltage circuit inside the module.
Your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop . Look at a wiring diagram here http://www.bbbind.com/free_tsb.html Enter vehicle info. year , make , model and engine size . Under system click on body & accessories ,then under subsystem click sun roof . Then click search button then the blue link . Now tell me you under stand what's happening here .
Power Sunroof System Components
The power sunroof system consists of the following components:
• Sunroof control module
• Sunroof Opening Position Switch (SOPS)
• Sunroof switch
• Sunroof motor/actuator
• Sunroof glass (spoiler type, with glass sliding above roof)
• Rail and track assembly upon which the sunroof glass rides
• Power supply for the sunroof control module: SUNROOF 20 A fuse
• Ground from G302
Sunroof Opening Position Switch (SOPS)
The SOPS tracks the position of the glass through 2 limit switches:
• Soft stop limit
• Vent limit
The sunroof control module monitors the limit switches and based on the inputs determines the position of the sunroof glass. As a limit switch closes, the 5 volt reference will be shorted to the sunroof limit switch low reference circuit, pulling down the 5 volt reference to 0 volts.
The sunroof control module understands the position of the sunroof glass based on the different input combinations through the sunroof limit switch soft stop signal and sunroof limit switch open vent signal circuits.
Power Sunroof Does Not Close
Perform the Initialization/Teach Process any time a new sunroof motor actuator is installed in the vehicle or any time an existing sunroof motor actuator is removed from the vehicle. Refer to Sunroof Motor/Actuator Initialization/Teach Process .
Sunroof Description and Operation (One Connector System)
This diagnostic procedure is to be used for the 1 connector Sunroof System that combines the sunroof control module with the sunroof motor/actuator.
The Sunroof System consists of the following components:
• BATT MAIN 2 Fuse 50 A
• Body control module (BCM)
• RAP relay
• S/Roof Fuse 20 A
• Sunroof module (includes sunroof motor/actuator)
• Sunroof switch
The Sunroof System is controlled by the sunroof switch and the sunroof motor/actuator assembly.
When the ignition is turned to RUN or ACCESSORY, or when the retained accessory power (RAP) system is active, the body control module (BCM) applies a ground to the RAP relay in the instrument panel (I/P) fuse block. This activates the RAP relay and allows battery positive voltage to be applied through the SUNROOF Fuse to the sunroof module. Ground for the sunroof module is supplied from G302.
The sunroof can be placed in 3 preset positions:
When the sunroof switch is placed in the OPEN position, a ground is applied from the sunroof switch low reference circuit , through the sunroof switch and to the sunroof switch open signal circuit. The sunroof motor/actuator then applies voltage to the sunroof motor open control circuit and applies a ground to the sunroof motor close circuit. The sunroof motor then opens the sunroof to the full open position.
When the sunroof switch is placed in the VENT position, a ground is applied from the sunroof switch low reference circuit , through the sunroof switch and to the sunroof switch open signal circuit. The sunroof module then applies voltage to the sunroof motor open control circuit and applies a ground to the sunroof motor close circuit. The sunroof motor then opens the sunroof to the VENT position.
When the sunroof switch is placed and held in the CLOSED position, a ground is applied from the sunroof switch low reference circuit , through the sunroof switch and to the sunroof switch close signal circuit. The sunroof module then applies voltage to the sunroof motor close control circuit and applies a ground to the sunroof motor open circuit. The sunroof motor then closes the sunroof.
The sunroof can be placed in any preferred open position when:
• The sunroof is in the fully opened position by pressing and holding the sunroof switch in the CLOSE position until the panel has reached the desired position then release the CLOSE switch in order to stop the sunroof
• The sunroof is opening, it can be stopped by momentarily pressing either side of the switch.
The sunroof control module, sun roof actuator, and the sunroof motor are integral parts of the sunroof module assembly and are not service separately.
Your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop or buick dealer .
Check the RAP fuse in the rear fuse box , this fuse powers the sunroof control module !
Fuse Block - Rear , Left rear of the passenger compartment, under the rear seat .
The sunroof module contains the logic for the opening and the closing of the sunroof. The sunroof motor assembly contains the reversible DC drive motor, the gear train, and the limit switch.
The sunroof module determines the sunroof motor direction based on inputs received from the overhead console sunroof switches. When the ignition switch is in the ON position or when retained accessory power (RAP) is active, voltage is applied to the sunroof module via the RAP relay. For a description and operation of the RAP system, refer to Retained Accessory Power (RAP) Description and Operation in Retained Accessory Power. The sunroof module controls the sunroof motor direction by changing the polarity of the applied voltage. The sunroof module remembers the sunroof position whenever the ignition switch is turned to the OFF position. The limit switch is used as an input to the sunroof module to indicate that the glass is fully closed, or in the comfort stop positions. The limit switch is grounded when the sunroof glass is in the fully closed or comfort stop positions, otherwise it is open.
The SLIDE CLOSE mode is initiated by moving and holding the sunroof slide switch (ROOF) forward. This applies a ground provided from the sunroof limit switch low reference circuit to the sunroof switch close vent signal input of the sunroof module. The sunroof module controls voltage to the control circuits of the sunroof motor. The sunroof motor will run until the limit switch contacts are closed. The closing of the limit switch will apply the sunroof limit switch low reference circuit to the sunroof limit switch soft stop signal circuit to the sunroof module, indicating the flush closed position has been reached. As the sunroof is approaching the close position the sunroof glass will force the wind deflector downward.
You need to have a factory scan tool hooked up an have it checked for DTC'S in the sunroof control module ! a code reader will not do this , a code reader will only check the engine codes for OBD 2 . Important: The following must be completed before using the symptom tables.
Perform Diagnostic System Check - Power Sunroof in order to verify that all of the following are true:
No DTCs are set.
The control modules can communicate via the serial data link.
Review the system operation in order to familiarize yourself with the system functions. Refer to Sunroof Description and Operation
In the under hood junction box , fuse CTSY LP 15 amp . Instrument fuse panel PWR WDO CB 25amp .
Sunroof Motor Synchronization
Synchronization will be necessary anytime the sunroof module battery positive voltage circuit is interrupted. The sunroof module will be synchronized when the controller learns the full vent position. The sunroof system will ignore any open request until the system has been synchronized.
To synchronize the sunroof:
Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
Using the close/tilt up portion of the sunroof switch, operate the sunroof glass until it reaches the full vent position.
Verify that the system operates normally.
Once the sunroof glass reaches the full vent position, the actual position is stored in the memory of the sunroof module. The sunroof module will stop the motor one motor revolution before the defined actual positions
Hope this help ! good luck !
VW sunroof come with a manual crank tool located inside the sunroof motor assembly behind the cover. Use that to manually crank it back to the stowed position and have it checked for cause of malfunction.
HAVE SAME PROBLEM ON MY ALERO , WOULD CLOSE TO VENT POSITION ALL OTHER FUNCTIONS WORKED FINE. TALKED TO A MECH. FRIEND AND FOUND A WAY TO CLOSE MANUALLY BUT YOU DO HAVE TO DROP FRONT LEFT CORNER OF HEADLINER. THE MOTOR IS UNDER SUNVISOR AREA AND YOU'LL NEED AN ALLEN(SPELLING)SOCKET TO CLOSE ROOF
the fuse panel. Turn the knob on the fuse panel cover counterclockwise
or push in on the release tabs on the fuse panel cover (depending on
the year of your Toyota), and pull down on the fuse panel cover.
the fuse for the sunroof out of the fuse panel using the fuse pullers
in the fuse panel. Use the diagram on the underside of the fuse panel
cover if you are having trouble locating the fuse for the sunroof.
the metal strip in the middle of the fuse. The strip should not be
burned or damaged. If it is, replace it with a fuse of the same amperage.
the recessed track of your sunroof. Clear away any debris that may be
stuck in the sunroof's track. Use engine degreaser and a wire brush to
clean the track of dirt. Then, wipe the track down with clean paper
Apply hard grease to the sunroof wheels and track so that the sunroof can move easily once again.