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My air quit, then my signals are not bleaking but the fuse is ok, my charge system says it is failing, does the battery have anything to do with it

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  • vasanth Jul 09, 2010

    hi .. i couldnt get your question fully. can you please be more clear in your question..sorry for inconvinence caused

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More like the alternator and battery could be bad by now.

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Turn signals not working


all else on car works perfectly (other shoe drops??????)
waring 1: no scan tool, you will fail (99%)
is battery fully charged to 12.6vdc rested or at 10v?
all 4 corners dead?
not working means dead?, flashes too fast/slow or dim? or they stick on? (5 modes to fail not counting L/R and haz)
do the hazards work? (prime evidence and not stated)
most cars before 2007 have fuse marked TURN.
but not this car... its not at all like older cars....
did you scan it first after the fuse tests? any PCM scan tool.?
2009 WK jeep
the FSM chapter 8L shows the huge list of errors the lamps can fail. DTC errors.
in fact 8 blinker codes, ! DTC errors,

there is no fuse, just for turns, (trailer lamps fuse 19)

read this excerpt from the FSM book.

The turn signal system operates on battery current received on a fused ignition switch output (run) circuit so that the
turn signals will only operate with the ignition switch in the On position. The hazard warning system operates on
non-switched battery current received on a fused B(+) circuit so that the hazard warning remains operational regardless
of the ignition switch position. When the turn signal system is activated, the circuitry of the left multi-function
switch and the FCM will cause the selected (right or left) turn signal indicator, front park/turn signal lamp, front side
marker lamp and rear tail/stop/turn signal lamp to flash on and off. When the hazard warning system is activated,
the circuitry of the hazard warning switch and the FCM will cause both the right side and the left side turn signal
indicators, front park/turn signal lamps, front side marker lamps and rear tail/stop/turn signal lamps to flash on and
off. The Front Control Module (FCM) can also activate the hazard warning system lamps.
end quote)

the module front control MFC, runs this
and it uses fuse 18 , if 18 blows the module goes off line and vast things fail and huge numbers OF DTCs store.
and fuse 27 MFC
MFC needs these fuses good.
keep in mind nobody has MFC internal schematics...so........



this module drives left and right side front and rear.
electronic drivers, not fuses.
the MFC is here.
the fuses are 12,13,18, 20,27 that power MFC.


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Aug 07, 2015 | 2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee

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Wont start has no power to dash no power period wont crank over


Remove and clean the battery cables (wear goggles) and if that doesn't yield any results have the batter tested by a local parts store, it is free. If you need a battery don't go cheap, get the OEM GM/Delco battery. they last for years

Feb 02, 2015 | 1999 Isuzu Rodeo

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My 2001 Saturn wont turn over, no click or anything. I do have good battery power.


Security system failure is a common problem on GM vehicles. Every time you put your key in the ignition, the vehicle's security system reads the signal from your key to make sure it is OK to run. When it receives the "correct key" signal, the security system allows the starter to turn over, and/or the fuel injectors to function and your car works like it normally does every day. If you were to use a different key, or try to hot wire it, the system would shut down these parts of your car, thus making the vehicle completely immobile. This is GM's way of preventing vehicle theft. The problem is that the system is known to fail quite commonly. It has been failing consistently for around 30 years. When it fails, two things can happen. First, you turn the key and nothing happens at all. Lights work, radio works, windows work... just not the starter that you need to start the vehicle. This is a "starter immobilizer". Second, you turn the key and the vehicles starts just fine, but then stalls in 2-5 seconds. This is a "fuel immobilizer". It literally cuts off the fuel injectors and stalls the vehicle to immobilize it. These are normally, but not always followed by a light on the dash that says SECURITY or ANTITHEFT. These lights are to inform you of the system's failure to collect the information it needs from your key to the computer. If your security/antitheft light is on, odds are you will be stranded soon, if not already. Remember that the security system controls the security light. If the system is failing, the light may never warn you of the failure. http://vatspasslockpasskeysecurityhelp.yolasite.com/

Sep 20, 2014 | 2001 Saturn L-Series

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2006 jeep liberty turn switch on and have power.starter and battery gd but wont turn over wont even click


the tests are all easy,
check fuses first, on all electric fails, starter ,charge and EFI are all electric systems.

super easy.
  1. jumper cable cranked with donor running car work?
  2. yes, battery is dead, or only discharged, charge it work?
  3. yes jumps but charge fails, bingo battery toast.
  4. so the jumper fails. in #1 , all that is a bad starting system. (not a part, the system)
  5. clean battery lugs. check fuses, and then hot wire the starter solenoid lug (dinky lug ,not huge one) (in park and wheels chocked keys off)
  6. ok that fails the starter is bad.
  7. ok that works. so the KEY line is dead. try starting in neutral yet?> bingo works, bad PRNDL switch on tranny side.
  8. the KEY line can be interrupted with some alarms, on a jeep it has Immobilizer that cuts fuel not cranking. so.... PRNDL switch bad or the key switch is self .
  9. Using any voltmeter to do the checks is a WIN. 12.6vdc is a charged battery is yours 12.6v rested/???????????

Sep 17, 2014 | 2006 Jeep Liberty

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I have a 2004 honda accord. The wipers and the blower for the defrost, heat and air quit at the same time. We have checked all fuses and relays. The next day the car wouldn't start. Sounds lik


First make sure the battery is fully charged and do a "load test" to make sure it is still good. then check the alternator and charging system to make sure it's working. My VW does this when it's not charging properly. When the battery gets below a certain voltage the car will automatically shut down everything electrical to keep power for the engine and the light doesn't always come on. It's usually a boken wire. Hope this helps.

Feb 19, 2012 | 2004 Honda Accord 2.4

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LOSS ALL USE OF POWER WINDOWS AND HEATER TURN SIGNALS WHILE DRIVING PULLED OVER AND IT QUIT RUNNING WONT START NOW NO JUICE TO START PUT IN NUETRAL TO START ONLY A CLICKING SOUND


your vehicle electrical system (anything that needs power) runs on the charging system (altenator). The only thing the battery does is start the vehicle unless your charging system is not working then it will use the battery until all the power is gone in it and then you will have nothing, like the symtems you wrote about. It sounds like a classic case of a bad alternator. I would start by charging up your battery and see if it will start then, I'm guessing it will. If it does start check your charging system. Most of your local auto part stores will do this for free for you. To my memory (not perfect though) there isn't a fuse for the altenator so that's most likely what is bad. That's where I would start and that's what i do for a living. I hope this helps you and good luck.

Mar 18, 2011 | 1999 Ford Windstar

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Windows won't go up or down


Fuses maybe? but more likely you have a power feed from the battery to the fuse box that has become disconnected or broken.

Get a test light and check the fuses with the key on to see if you have power to both sides of the fuses.

If you have power to both sides of the fuses, its not the fuse or the power supply.

If you have power on only one side of the fuse it the fuse.

If you have no power on either side of the fuse, your not getting power to the fuses block.

Nov 28, 2009 | 2000 Isuzu Trooper

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No electrical power to anything - even dome light.


Check battery and chassis earth connections are ok.
Check for 12v power at the fuse/power disrtribution fuse bus; - if no power there, trace circuit wiring back to battery.

Jul 12, 2009 | Chevrolet Blazer Cars & Trucks

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Battery - alternator


The best thing to do is first check all the fuses, I think there is second fuse box under the hood, look in the owners manual, also check for any shorted wiring where the radio was. If all this appears ok go to Kragen auto, Auto Zone etc and they will test the alt for free, please note that some Japanese charging systems require a good battery to work, so pulling the battery cable off may not be a valid test on this import.

Nov 03, 2008 | 1995 Eagle Talon

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Several secondary electrical systems not working -- 1998 CLK


They can check the battery and the charging system for starters. Fully charged battery,clean cables. then do a load test on the battery. If it didn't pass the test replace it and check the charging system.
Charging system easy to check , Put voltmeter on battery terminals and monitor vehicle's voltage with and wthout accessories on. should be between 13.5 to 14.5v . Before condemning alternator inspect wiring behind alternator ...if corroded replace then retest.
If voltage is with range then the problem is in the power distribution compartment/ relay, or either is a ground all those items share.

Aug 13, 2008 | 1998 Mercedes-Benz CLK

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