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What type of radiator fan does my 2000 Audi A6 2.7T have - electric or viscous? How do you know when it does not work?

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  • Yuri Grant Roper Jul 08, 2010

    I have an overheating problem that looks like it could be the fan. I want to know if I have an electric fan or viscous fan on my 2000 AUDI A6 2.7T Tiptronic.

  • Yuri Grant Roper Jul 09, 2010

    The radiator fan when it is moving you can stop by hand and rotate it in both directions. Would this be the viscous coupling?

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Hi you should have twin electric fans on this model, you should know when these work as if they did not your car would definitely overheat, what you need to do to make sure these are working is start your car lift hood/bonnet look at the front where the radiator is, you should see both cooler fans, let the vehicle idle until it gets to half way on the temperature gauge, when it goes over a tad the fans should then cut in, if it goes way over and still no fans cutting in then you have a problem, this could be a couple of things, thermostat could be u/s or fan switch could be u/s it is very rare that it would be the fans going u/s hope this helps

Posted on Jul 08, 2010

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    steve morris Jul 08, 2010

    hi grant
    just a follow up, if you find the fan's both work, you can try seeing if it is the thermostat, after car has idled for a while, and is up to temprature, feel the hoses going to the radiator, if the bottom hose is only warm and the top hose is very hot, then this will be the thermostat, if they are both very hot then thermostat is ok, if fan's still not engaged and the hoses are both hot, this might be the radiator switch , this is the sensor on the side of the radiator with the wires in it...hope that helps a bit more

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    steve morris Jul 09, 2010

    hi yes it is, but your model should have twin electric fans not the viscus type, i will investigate more but the viscus fans for your modle ended early 1999, not late 1999 or 2000, i know its a close date but either they fitted this as they still had some left, or the model year is wrong...

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Electric. Here's one 
http://cpwstore.carpartswholesale.com/catalog/details/Audi/A6/Replacement/Radiator_Fan/2000/Base/6_Cyl_2-dot-8L/A160902.html

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  • Yuri Grant Roper Jul 08, 2010

    Hi. That is for a 2.8L, I have the 2.7T V6 twin turbo Tiptronic motor.

  • Azrael SRL Jul 08, 2010

    Read thishttp://www.audiworld.com/model/a6/04/04a...



    It clearly says  - thermostatically controlled radiator fan - it means it has an electric fan controlled by a thermostat. And the one i recommended is the one installed in your car.Want another one?
    http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sku/Au...

  • Azrael SRL Jul 09, 2010

    The fan is powered by a small electric motor, of course you can stop it by hand and ever turn it the other way around. The only type to which you can't do that is the old fashioned one - directly belt driven by the engine and AUDI's never had one like it.


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