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Low turbo boost 15 # max turbo, exhaust manifold, wate gate charge air cooler, gauge nad engine diagnostics all checked still low power this in a monaco motorhome

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  • davelin1 Jul 08, 2010

    5.9 cummins turbo diesel in monaco mh low boost of 15 # should be 25 to30 following cked out and in working order pac brake, exhaust manifold,turbo charger, waste gate, piping ,cac , guages, and new air cleaner and fuel filter. pressure after filter 12 #

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Possible causes of low turbo boost.
Intake system leaks. This covers a lot of components and is therefore the most common problem. Any leak between the compressor and the intake of the head can allow boost pressure out. Small leaks may reduce boost a little, large leaks may not allow any boost at all to develop. I check 3 main areas for leaks. 1) the big pipes – ie the two rubber intercooler connecting pipes,, the rubber connector pipe just in front of the throttle and the rubber connector on the turbo compressor outlet side. Check the band clamps for all these connectors and check that they are not split – including the not so visible undersides. Check that the connector has not separated from the metal pipe it connects to – sometimes they blow off under high boost and sometimes they do not slide onto their metal hose properly when reinstalling after work.
Next look at the vacuum plumbing to the fuel rail, BOV, fuel vapour system, and heater system. There are several T pieces that can break or sometimes the hard plastic hoses may have pulled out of the joining rubber sleeve if disturbed during work on the car. This is especially true near the firewall on the battery side where there are several vacuum connectors amongst the wiring looms. If no leaks have been found yet check the wastegate as described below. If the wastegate is OK it is time to pull off the manifold and check the rest of the plumbing underneath that area. With the intake manifold removed it is possible to check the vac lines to the temp/vac switch which controls the fuel vapour system. You can also inspect the plumbing to the idle stabilizer valve and the brake booster hoses. The hoses to the cycling valve can also be inspected at this time. Although they are not commonly a problem you should also inspect the sealing between the manifold and the head (gaskets) and the seal between the throttle and the manifold (Oring).
Wastegate stuck partially open. An open wastegate will allow exhaust gasses to bypass the turbo and hence little or no boost will build. With the car cool, start it up and position yourself so that you can put your hand on the exhaust near the catalytic converter. You will feel the exhaust get warm but the pipe that runs alongside the catalytic converter should remain cool because normally the wastegate is closed and prevents exhaust gas going through that pipe. If that pipe heats up like the rest of the exhaust then your wastegate is a problem – its allowing the exhaust gas to bypass the turbo.Weak spring in wastegate If the spring in your wastgate has weakened then it may not be strong enough to hold the wastegate valve closed when exhaust pressure builds up. It may therefore start to open before boost builds sufficiently high. This can be overcome to some extent by shimming the wastgate which is merely adding space between the two halves of the wastegate thus pretensioning the spring. Turbine failure If a foreign object has entered the intake system the compressor may shred itself. This has happened before when nuts or bolts accidentally find their way into the intake plumbing. Check this by removing the intake plumbing until you can see into the turbo intake – inspect the blades. Ensure that the turbo spins freely. Grasp the end of the turbine shaft and see if can move side to side (it should not).
Blocked exhaust / catalytic converter. Two failures can occur here. The double walled exhaust pipe connected to the front of the catalytic converter can collapse and block the flow of exhaust. This probably wont be obvious from external inspection. The other and more common problem is that the material in the catalytic converter may have melted over in places causing a severe restriction to exhaust flow and preventing boost from developing. Failed boost controller. Boost controllers come in various types and can possibly fail in such a way as to cause a vacuum/boost leak or cause the wastegate to open prematurely. Manual boost controllers can blow out their plugs if the plugs are not seated tightly. The stock cycling valve can fail and dump all boost to the wastegate so that it opens and does not allow the boost to build sufficiently high.DME/KLR problems.if the DME or KLR has detected a problem it may intentionally restrict boost to 1.2 bar sorry its long winded but i think i have covered it all...hope this helps

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  • davelin1 Jul 08, 2010

    i dont think you carefully read my original post all of the items you mention have already been checked most on the bench with proper instruments all engine ecm codes also read looking for an answer after checking all piping and components fuel pressures good after filter you are looking at yesterdays post todays answers those questions

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    steve morris Jul 08, 2010

    umm strange but you posted the second item after i posted my answer, they read 2 hours ago, so i did read the post correctly as i answerd the question that was posted, not the after one that was posted 2 hours later when i sent mine up ...but never mind only took me 35mins to write that all up..but hey whats 4 bucks...laters

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    steve morris Sep 02, 2010

    try exhaust

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Lost power due to low turbo boost Cause: PacBrake cylinder pivot mount broke and causing butterfly to block exhaust flow to turbo. First place to look is for leaks in the CAC (Charge Air Cooler, aka After-cooler, aka Inter-cooler). As far as problems it could be a number of things from a leak in the CAC or a connection between tubing and CAC or intake. It could also be a restricted air filter.Also a significant crack in the inter-cooler radiator can cause this low turbo problem.Get the battery checked.Is it properly charged. How long should the generator run in order to charge the batteries?
Generator run time will depend on battery state of charge. Returning a discharged battery back to 100 percent charge may require a week of generator run time. Using a battery hydrometer is the preferred way to check battery state of charge.
Why does the generator set shut down?
Due to computerized programming installed within the genset, the component may automatically disengage due to low oil, high water temperature, overload, and low fuel in the tank or air in the fuel line.
First, confirm that the battery cut-off switch is on. Next, check the fuse in the domestic fuse panel (usually located in the bedroom) for power. If 12-Volt power is present, check the water pump for power. If there is power going to the water pump, confirm that there is a good ground. On models with a latching controller, check for power and ground at the controller. Once it has been verified that there is good 12-Volt power and ground at the water pump, have the water pump and controller inspected for potential replacement. Monaco is famous for grounding problems in the gauge panel. Thanks. Keep updated for any more query. You can rate this solution and show your appreciation

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  • davelin1 Jul 07, 2010

    read carefully all those things have been professionally checked and my batteries and generator are just fin e

  • davelin1 Jul 07, 2010

    read post fully all those items have ckd out 100% as well as guage and diagnostics on engine i have no problems with batteries or generator

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