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Anonymous Posted on Jun 18, 2010

Studs for a exhaust manifold rusted off flush with the head. I tried drilling a giude hole for easy outs but the drill bits walked off the center of the studs. The bit chewed into the head and made a hole beside the stud. How would i try to take the studs out now? p.s. The head is still on the truck

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If you have a welder and a torch set you can still get them out. take a 3/8 nut put it over the broken bolt and weld it together. then take the torch and heat the nut and head up. you need to heat these up to a glowing red. then start removing the bolt. go back and forth if you have to. good luck. ps if you don't have the tools remove the head and take it to a shop

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If I break the rear stud on a 318 manifold head bolt in the rear or front stud and if I drill it out and see antifreeze come out have drilled through the water jacket or is it open to the block

It is very rare to through holes to the water jacket, especially the holes of fairly important studs and bolts. It happens mostly in die cast items such as some cylinder blocks and some holes to the oily parts are through and also some to where there is air or exhaust gas on the other side.

There is no need to despair yet even if you have drilled off course or simply gone too far. There are ways around such problems if indeed it is a problem and you won't know until you have removed the manifold and taken a close look.

There are repair epoxies and putties of various types intended to reclaim such errors and there are specialist cold stitching techniques which can reclaim almost anything made of metal. For areas that must be strong and are subjected to very high temperatures I drill and tap oversize and sometimes make a double diameter stud and sometimes I plug the oversized hole with a large bolt and machinery adhesive, cut off flush and re-drill and tap the original size.
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How to remove a broken bolt or stud with an easy out

If you've broken off a bolt or stud, you no doubt think the end has arrived - not necessarily!! There are several ways to get that troublesome piece of metal out - even if it broke off flush with the surface, and the aftermarket has several different tools available. First on the list would be an Easy out, which comes in a set of several different sizes. Instead of using a standard drill bit to drill a hole in your workpiece, buy a set of left handed drill bits and chuck up the appropriate size in a reversible, variable speed drill. Use a fine point metal punch to make a dimple in the CENTER of the bolt or stud. The closer to center you are the greater the chance for success. Set the drill at a slow speed. It would be best to have the piece horizontal so you can use cutting oil ( or motor oil in a pinch) to help lubricate the hole as you drill. In either case, drill slowly into the bolt, making sure you are level and straight.You can guide the bit by maneuvering the drill at different angles to keep your hole centered. Drill at least 3/4 inch into the bolt, using plenty of oil and making sure you don't overheat the bit - you don't want it to break off. Watch closely as you drill - it is possible that the bolt could back out of the hole as you go! When you've reached the desired depth, remove the bit and, for added help, use an oxygen acetylene torch to heat up the bolt. stop just before it begins to glow orange and quickly push a plain paraffin candle into the side of the bolt.( If you don't have access to a torch, you can try a rust buster or other penetrating oil to release the threads from the hole cavity.) Now lightly tap your easy out into the bolt with a hammer and carefully turn it with an open end or crescent wrench. You'll need to work quickly before the bolt cools too much. The wax will work its way in between the threads of the bolt by capillary action, releasing the bolt for an easier removal. If this doesn't work, then you'll probably need to drill out the bolt fragments and use an appropriately sized Helicoil kit to replace the threads. Before you re - install a new bolt or stud, get the right size and pitch of a thread tap and tap out ( or re cut ) the threads to make sure your new fastener will not strip out the old threads.<br />Best of luck!!
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It can be a daunting task. You'll need to center punch them as deeply as possible. Use left handed cobalt bits starting with the smallest possible bit & work your way up to about 3/4 the size of the bolt & try an easy out. Don't break the easy out!! If the easy out fails,continue drilling to the proper size for a heli-coil & install one. Use anti-sieze on the new bolts. If this fails,hate to say it,remove the head & try a drill press.
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That's because of corrosion. It happens!

The broken studs have to be cut, or ground down flush, with the thermostat housing. Then a center punch is used to make a deep dimple, in the center of the broken stud.

Next use a small drill bit to make a pilot hole.
Two times smaller than the stud. (Bolt)
Use caution, as you don't want the drill bit to walk off to one side. Keep the drill level, and vertical.

Now come back with a larger drill bit, but one that is smaller than the stud/bolt, and will stay away from the threads. Try to drill at least one-half inch in depth. Use an Easy Out, bolt extractor.

If it feels as though the Easy Out bolt extractor, is being forced too much, and you think there is a possibility of it breaking, STOP!
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(After you have drilled the center of a stud, or bolt, out to where the threads are, there is a thin metal shell left behind)
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Header tried solutions offered previously

First, is the head off or is the bolt easily reachable? Your problem is common. The bits may be snapping because you are either pressing too hard or are changing angle while drill is in motion. The best thing you can do is first make a bit guide...Take a piece of steel at least 1/4" thick that is long enough to reach two adjacent bolts (use manifold as a template) drill both holes to the size of the studs. The one for the broken bolt should be substantially smaller and centered over the broken stud. Drill first with a bit of the same size you used to make the pilot hole. then go up to a size just slightly smaller than the stud, so threads are not damaged. I like using a reverse twist bit for this because the drill force and heat caused by drilling will often back the stud out. But those bits are hard to find. after the hole has been drilled, use a straight type thread remover (not an "easy out" ...they spread the stud and exert force against the threads actually making removal harder) straight type removers look a lot like torks bits and are tapped into place creating grooves that help turn the stud. you can apply some heat to the area, but generally just turn the stud out slowly, use lots of solvent and after each turn out, run it back in to clean the threads and prevent binding. Funny...It takes longer to write this than it does to actually do it!!! When replacing, put anti-seize compound on the new stud.
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Stud removal can be either very hard or easy. Just depends on how hard access is to the stud. You will need to center punch the broken stud. Then use a very good high speed steel drill bit to drill a pilot hole in to the stud. Tap an easy out in to the hole you drilled into the stud and hopefully it will break loose. Worse case scenario is you might have to remove the head and use a torch to heat it for removal or actually use the torch to blow it out of the hole. If you must remove the head and need to use a torch to remove the stud send the head out to a good machine shop. These shops have people there that are qualified to do this process. To much heat can damage the threads in the hole or ruin the head. Good luck. If you ahve more questions please feel free to ask.
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