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My 2003 kia rio cinco's turn signals and windshield wipers do not work. all fuses fine, if i jump the red wire from key switch to the green wire from the key switch they work.

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  • onpointsolut Jun 07, 2010

    if i try to turn on either my turn signal or windshield wipers my headlights go out too, but not my marker lights.

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Hi.

I do not have the full electrical wiring diagram for the Rio, so I can give only little help here.

WhatI can say is that in the Rio relatively simple electrical system many functions like wipers are directly powered through the ignition.

Rear windows heater, ABS, flasher, brake lights, wipers etc. are all powered through the ignition cylinder when the switch is in Ig2 position.

If by jumping the ignition wires you can get some of the function working, then you will probably need to replace the ignition cylinder.

Here wiring schematics showing what I mean, the small rectangle in the middle is the ignition cylinder.Click on the picture to enlarge.

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Replace the switch then if jumping it works it. a contact inside the switch is carboned up having no continuity going through it

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  • onpointsolut Jun 07, 2010

    the ign switch is brand new out of the box. there is like 3 volts when not jumped and the turn signals make an attempt to "click" but shut off on some overload causing door chime to go out.

  • frank thomas wilson
    frank thomas wilson Jun 07, 2010

    of course that will work by jumping it to those wires but as stated earlier if the contact switch has carbon build up on it no continuity will pass through this switch as wired from the factory

  • onpointsolut Jun 07, 2010

    what contact switch are you referring to, ign switch is very clean still.



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Did you review the Wiper/Washer System description and operation and perform the necessary inspections?
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