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Chrysler Intermittent Starting Problem

We have a 2004 Chrysler Concorde Limited, which we bought new. It now has about 55,000 miles on the odometer. We have kept it in good running condition, with regular maintenance, it is parked in our garage every night, and we have observed all of the few recalls from Chrysler (e.g., Emission Recall J18). The transmission was replaced at a Chrysler dealer with a reconditioned unit in Jan. '08 and the battery was replaced in Oct. '08 at 48,000 miles.
I might add that my wife and I are retired, and while the car is used frequently, it is driven mostly for shorter jaunts of a few miles up to, occasionally, 25 miles or more.

Lately we have had a really peculiar problem, one that has service techs baffled.

A little over two weeks ago, after driving the car here and there in the morning, it would not start after sitting for about an hour. It would crank (turn over?) just fine, but would not catch. We tried starting it several times, not for more than a few seconds each time, of course, and it would crank strongly but the engine would not actually turn on. Then, after the car sat turned off for 45 minutes or so, I tried to start it again and, lo and behold, it started up just fine immediately!

We drove the car with no starting (or any other) problems for about two weeks. Then, late last week, the exact same thing happened. It would crank but not start, then after sitting for 30 minutes or so it started right up.

The first time this happened, our local repair shop, which has a good reputation for expertise (and honest pricing), could not pin the problem down, i.e., they could not get the starting to fail, so they replaced the crank sensor just in case. This second time, about two weeks later, they again cannot determine the cause of the problem. I have also talked to service writers at three Chrysler dealerships and they could not offer any "most likely" cause. They suggested, for example: the ignition switch (the car cranks just fine), rusty battery cables (they are OK), bad crank sensor (replaced two weeks ago), bad cam (?), bad idle speed motor (?). The dealership guys also said they have not had any noticeable incidence of a problem like this.

(Also, although it's likely there is no relationship here, about six weeks ago the "Check Engine" light on the dashboard came on - steady, not blinking - while we were driving. Our owner's manual said it could be indicating a loose gas cap (it wasn't), or poor quality gasoline. The gas tank was down about a third, so I filled it up with 93 octane at a Shell station and the light has not come on since.)

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  • rcnlbrown Nov 05, 2010

    Kedsinger, this is 'rcnlbrown.' The history of our problem is that the car failed to start on 5/21, then after 40 mins. or so it started. Our repair shop (very reputable, professional and fair) replaced the Crank Sensor on 5/24. Car started OK until 6/02 - same deal, it started after about 30 mins. I left it with the shop for 10 days, during which time it started up fine several times every day. They replaced the Cam Sensor on 6/11 and it has run fine ever since. BUT - Chrysler had replaced the "Camshaft Position Sensor" under warranty in June 2005, and our repair shop replaced the Cam Sensor in July 2008 (check engine light was coming on, and car was "boughing down" (?).). So I think you guess about the cam shaft sensor is right on. Good luck. But I've had it with Chryslers after buying two of them new and having major problems with both, and my son had to replace the entire engine in his - great ride, lousy mechanically.



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I have the same problem with my 2004 Chrsyler Concorde, however mine didn't start doing this until a recall involving reprogramming the cam shaft sensor was done. But I have exact same issues and no trouble codes appear for dealer either. My guess is that it is the cam shaft sensor, which I am going to get replaced. If you solve yours first, please post and let me know.

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