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Car is not going more than 150 km speed. we have checked silenser no problem

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  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    car has no initial picup in second and third gear

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    PLS GIVE SOME GOOD CLUE

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    MY CAR HAS NO POWER IN SECOND AND THIRD GEAR. IS TURBO RESPOSIBLE? CAN ANY ONE TELL HOW TO SET TURBO WASTEGATE VALVE IN KKK TURBO . MY CAAR IS SKODA OCTAVIA 1.9 TDI DEISEL

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Check that fuel filter isn't clogged, check that exhaust isn't clogged. Also you can test the throttle position sensor to make sure that it is not faulty. It would also be a good idea to remove the air cleaner hose and clean out the throttle body.

Posted on May 16, 2010

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  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    WHAT IS THROTTLE BODY

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    The throttle body is the area on top of car that the air is introduced. The throttle plate is inside the throttle body. Some of these cars have a turbo system that can have bearings that seize up and turbo doesn't spin as it should. There is also a valve you can set, but is set by factory. It is usually half open by default.

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    CAN TURBO BE FAULTY

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    WE HAVE ALREADY MOVED THIS TURBO WASTEGATE VALVE SETTING. CAN YOU PLS TELL US HOW TO SET IT TO FACTORY SPECS

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    The turbo could be faulty. can you see it spin when opening up the throttle? The more fuel it gets, the more the turbo should spin. Turbo's do give people alot of problems even though they are nice to have, but the bearings to seize up or get dirty and don't allow the turbo to spin properly.

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    All you have to do is bend or
    cut the rod that goes to the wg. I have a dsm 14b snail that's pushing
    out 8psi, I think they originally come with like 14 or 16psi stock.


  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    WE HAVE ALREADY CHANGED TURBO AND NOTHING HAPPENED . THE WASTEGATE VALVE OPENS BUT I THINK IT OPENS VERY LATE. DOES TURBO WORK BELOW 2000 RPM.

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    Turbo doesn't usually kick in until 3000 rps. It begins charging at 1500-2000

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    Pressure release valve or more commonly known as a "Blow Off
    Valve", releases turbo pressure when the throttle plate is
    closed. The turbo is still spinning and still creating
    pressure. The forced air will hit the throttle plate and return
    where it came
    from. When a BOV reads vacuum from the manifold, it either opens a
    valve, or softens the
    valve. Which lets the pressure escape from it's opening. In
    order to work correctly the air must go back into the intake before your
    turbo because the Air Flow Meter has accounted for
    it. If not you will have a temporary rich condition which will
    upset your idle slightly. Proper tuning can get around this
    hassle. Most choose to vent to the air, as they love the sweet
    sound the air makes when it runs to the
    atmosphere. If the pressure release valve (as some call it)
    contains a horn or small holes/vents it will cause the air to make a
    louder/higher pitched sound depending on what is used.





  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    It would also be a good idea to test the vacuum pressure of the wastegate valve to check and see if it holds pressure. If turbo is spinning normally, you may have a bad valve.

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    MY CAR WHEN IN SECOND GEAR IN LOW RPM DOESNT HAVE POWER SO I THINK TURBO DOESNT COME IN SCENE . BECAUSE IN LOW RPM TURBO DOESNT HAVE ANY ROLE TO PLAY. IN SECOND GEAR BEFORE REACHING 2000 RPM MY CAR HAS NO POWER

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    I would test the valve, make sure it holds vacuum pressure, then see if it opens on the correct time. Valve lashing also plays a big role. So does throttle positioning timing. You could always get a power chip or peformance chip and feel an amazing difference!

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    FROM WHERE CAN I GET POWER CHIPS . WILL FLASHING SOFTWARE HELP ME

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    WHAT IS THE CORRECT TIME FOR WASTEGATE VALVE TO OPEN . KKK TURBO .

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    A
    conventional wastegate valve begins opening much earlier than we'd
    actually like it to. This way, they do their job at, say, 20 psi by
    beginning to open at, say, 10 psi. Even though we don't want it to open
    at 10 psi, or tell it to open at 10 psi, it does anyways. If it didn't,
    we'd see more than 20 psi at the top. The point at which the valve
    initially opens is referred to as its cracking pressure-our 10psi point
    in this example. Cracking pressures for most external wastegates are
    generally about half of whatever maximum boost is. As soon as the valve
    is cracked open, exhaust gases that would otherwise continue to spool
    the turbine until maximum boost is reached are wasted. This will either
    make it take longer for the turbo to reach maximum boost or not let it
    reach that point at all. Either way it's bad for power curves and for
    performance.


  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    IS IT POSSIBLE THAT ECM IS OPENING WASTEGATE VALVE LATE. DOES ECM CONTROL WASTEGATE VALVE THROUGH SOLENOID. IMPORTANT THING IS MY CAR HAS NO POWER AT ALL IN INITIAL STAGE IN SECOND GEAR AND THIRD GEAR. IT TAKES LOT OF TIME TO REACH SPEED

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    Most valves are vacuum controlled. But if yours is electrical, then it I would test the power to the valve by testing in different rpm's.
    You also may be a clogged CCV - be careful with that. I bleieve there is a filter
    in there and it could clog up. This would lead to a build-up of
    pressure and other problems. I have read about someone blowing turbo
    seals because and elephant hose (CCV vented to open air) clogged up and
    caused excess pressures. But do check vacuum and or electical power to the wastegate as well


  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    WHAT IS CCW ? WASTEGATE VALVE IS OPERATED BY VACUUM PIPE ONLY BUT VACUUM PIPE TO WASTEGATE VALVE COMES FROM SOLENOID. AIR PRESURE FROM TURBO FIRST GOES TO SOLENOID AND THEN SOLENOID CONTROLS WASTEGATE VALVE THROUGH VACUUM

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    ARE YOU THERE

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    The vacuum pump creates and
    supplies vacuum to the solenoid, which in turn controls vacuum to the
    wastegate actuator which opens and closes the wastegate valve. You
    should have a minimum of 15 inches of vacuum at the wastegate actuator.
    If not check output at the vacuum pump. Should be 20+" at the pump. If
    ok, you have either a cracked vacuum hose or a bad solenoid.

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    ccw is computer controlled wastegate

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    MY WASTEGATE VALVE DOESNT WORK ON VACUUM IT WORKS WITH AIR PRESSURE OF TURBO . WHEN TURBO MOVES THERE IS ONE PIPE WHICE COMES FROM TURBO TO SOLENOID AND THROUGH SOLENOLED PIPE GOES TO WASTEGATE. MY WASTEGATE WORKS ON AIR PRESSURE AND NOT VACUUM. IN SHORT IT OPENS WHEN AIR PUSHES IT.

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    When air pressure activates a device, it is called vacuum pressure. The solenoid reacts from the air/vacuum pressure or is computer controlled same with wastegate, it is either computer controlled or it is air/vacuum controlled. If it is electrical, then you will want to test the power from the pcm or ecm whichever yours is connected to.

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    I HAVE CHECKED THE VOLTAGES AND IT HAS 9 VOLTS COMING FROM ECM. WE HAVE CHANGED ECM AND ALSO CHECKED . ITS SAME PROBLEM . NO POWER IN CAR. IN SECOND GEAR CAR HAS NO POWER. WHEN I PRESS ACCELATOR CAR INSTEAD OF GOING FRONT WITH POWER DROPS THE SPEED.

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    Have you tested the tranny 2nd and 3rd gear solenoids?

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    There is a switch on the clutch pedal assembly that seems to reduce
    power in 2nd and possibly 3rd gear when the clutch pedal is depressed.



    Try this: Accelerate through 1st and shift into second. Once in second
    and at a steady speed, depress the gas about an inch or so and get a
    good feel of how hard the car accelerates.



    Slow back down to where you were before you accelerated, still in 2nd.
    While at a steady speed, depress the clutch pedal to just before where
    it starts to disengage, (you don't want clutch slip). Depress he gas the
    same amount as the first time. You should notice a difference. While
    you are still accelerating, take your foot off the clutch. Notice
    anything?

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    NO . CAN YOU PLS GIVE ME SOME MORE DETAILS REGARDING THIS

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    ARE YOU SURE THERE IS SOME SWITCH IN CLUCTH PEDAL. I NEVER NOTICED ANY SWITCH . IF YES DO YOU MEAN TO SAY SWITCH IS FAULTY

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    the torque kicks in a bit around 4,000 rpm, especially noticable under
    partial throttle, but not in the midrange and not under
    partial throttle. The computer gives a boost to the controller at highter rpms. A power boost or turbo boost doesn't kick in until over 2000 rpms and therefore a lack of power can occur under 2000 rpm. If you have no power over 2000 rpm, then there is a lack of air flow or lack of fuel to the engine.

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    If you do have the switch, you can do some testing:
    With out the pedal pressed:

    test
    the wire with the Ignition OFF

    test the wire with the Ignition
    ON

    test the wire with the key in the start position

    With
    the pedal pressed;

    test the wire with the Ignition OFF

    test
    the wire with the Ignition ON

    test the wire with the key in the
    start postition

    With this information for every wire at the
    switch, determining what type of the clutch switching system you have
    will be easy.

    DIRECT FEED

    The simplest type of system to
    test and bypass is the "Direct Feed" system. This circuit simply
    interrupts the +12V signal starter wire from the ignition switch to the
    starter solenoid. There are 2 wires in this circuit, the "key side" wire
    which goes from the clutch pedal to the Ignition switch, and the
    "solenoid side" which goes from the clutch switch to the starter motor.
    When the key is turned to the start position without pressing the pedal,
    you will test 12V only on one of the wires at the clutch switch, this
    is the key side. When the pedal is pressed down, and the key is in the
    crank position, the other wire will also read 12 volts; this is the
    solenoid side wire. To confirm you have a direct feed clutch switch, hot
    wire the "solenoid side" wire with a fused +12 volts and the starter
    motor will crank. Connect the starter output from the remote starter to
    solenoid side wire.

    NOTE: In the next two systems a Relay in the
    vehicle interrupts the start wire between the Ignition switch and the
    starter motor. With the key in the start position, and the clutch pedal
    pressed, the relay energizes and allows the start signal to reach the
    starter motor. In these systems a wires from the clutch triggers the
    relay, when the pedal is pressed. There will be another wire at the
    clutch switch that supplies the signal to the trigger wire{either
    postive or negative, depending on the system}

    NEGATIVE:

    In
    a Negative system, when the clutch is pressed: a negative signal is
    sent to the relay, the relay energizes, when the key is turned to the
    start position the 12volts from the starter wire is allowed to pass
    through the relay and to the starter motor. One of the wires at the
    clutch will test as negative, this is the supply wire. The relay's
    negative trigger wire will only show negative when the pedal is
    pressed{some vehicle's also require the ignition system to be powered}.
    To confirm you have a Negative system, hot wire the negative trigger
    wire by jumping it to a ground source with your fused test jumper. You
    should now be able to turn the key to the start postition and engage the
    start motor without pressing in the clutch pedal. If there is nothing
    else connected to the Ground OUt When Running{G.O}wire from the remote
    start module, the G.O. wire should be strong enough to trigger the
    vehicle's clutch relay. If there are other devices or modules connected
    to the G.O. wire a relay{and diodes} may have to be added to strengthen
    the negative current going to the clutch bypass.

    POSITIVE:

    Very
    similiar to the negative system, except that the vehicles clutch
    relay is trigger by 12 volts, instead of a negative signal. In a
    positive system, when the clutch is pressed: a positive{12 volts} signal
    is sent to the relay, the relay energizes, when the key is turned to
    the start position the 12 volts from the start wire is allowed to pass
    through the relay and to the starter motor. One of the wires at the
    clutch will test as 12 volts, this is the supply wire. The relay's
    positive trigger wire will only show positive when the pedal is
    pressed{Some vehicles also require the Ignition system to be powered}.
    To confirm you have Positive system, hot wire the positive trigger wire
    by jumping it to a 12 volt source with your fused test jumper. you
    should now be able to turn the key to the start position and engage the
    start motor, without pressing in the clutch pedal. A relay is needed to
    send 12 volts to the trigger wire from the start module during start
    attempts.

    Normally Closed(N/C):

    NOTE:There are different
    types of this system used by various vehicle manufacturers: the
    following is used to illustrate how these systems work in general.

    A
    relay is also used in these types of systems to interrupt the starter
    wire. In the previous two examples, the clutch was bypassed by engaging
    the clutch relay; with this system you bypass the clutch by preventing
    the clutch relay from engaging. When the Ignition key is turned to the
    start position the relay energizes and interrupts the start wire, when
    the pedal is not pressed. When the Ignition key is turned to the start
    position, and the pedal is pressed, the relay does not energize and the
    start signal reaches the starter motor.

    In a N/C system the
    supply wire is connected to the relay's trigger wire at rest (pedal not
    pressed). When the pedal is pressed, the connection is broken between
    the supply wire and the relay's trigger wire (this disengages the
    relay). To verify that you have a N/C system, disconnect the clutch
    switch and the vehicle should start without the clutch pedal being
    pressed. When you test the trigger wire with you logic probe, the
    trigger wire will test as 12 volts or negative when the pedal is not
    pressed, it should read as an open circuit(or float) when the pedal is
    pressed



  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    WE HAVE CHANGED DEISEL PUMP AND HAVE CHECKED FULL DEISEL LINE PIPES COMING FROM TANK REPLACED DEISEL FILTERS. REGARDING AIR WE HAVE CHANGED AIR MAF SENSORS. CHANGED PISTON RINGS . REDONE HEAD VALVES . I DONT KNOW WHAT IS MISSING NOW. THERE IS NO FAULT CODE ALSO

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    If valves are set correct, and fuel system is new, and speed sensor test ok, and you don't have the clutch switch, and ecu is new, then the loss of power is more than likely the ecu putting the engine in limp
    mode (cuts back power) or a problem with the turbo system. Either the watergate valve or stuck turbo bearings or air leak

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    WHY DO THEY GIVE SUCH SWITCH IN CLUTCH. WHAT IS THE USE? HOW CAN SWITCH BE REASON FOR POWER LESS OF A CAR

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    BUT IN SLOW SPEED FIRST I USE TO FEEL POWER . THAT POWER IS MISSING. IN SECOND GEAR WHEN IN SLOW I USE TO GIVE LITTTLE ACCELATOR CAR WOULD GO WITH FULL POWER

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    The switch is used to start the car or prevent the car from starting while clutch is not in. It also sends signals to the computer, When the vehicle is at a certain rpm and depending on what gear, You then press clutch to shift, then a signal is sent of rpms, and that the clutch is in, Then the rpm's are adjusted. RPM's are supposed to drop when clutch is engaged and then readjusted when the throttle is pressed again. When you add turbo into the sequence then the computer has to determine rpms, and air flow, and fuel flow, then adjust it as needed.

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    CAR IS NOT IN LIMP MODE. WHEN IT IS IN LIMP MODE WE COME TO KNOW.

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    Ok. if it's not in limp mode, that is a good sign. When the tranny is in limp mode, the solenoids don't act properly and tranny and engine looses power.

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    DO YOU HAVE ANY IDES IF SKODA OCTAVIA TDI 1.9 HAS THAT SWITCH IN CLUCTH PEDAL

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    I will check to see if this has the switch. Oh by the way, have you checked your egr valve? I know isuzu acts the same exact way with plugged or faulty egrs.

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    YES EGR ALSO WE REPLACED AND CHECKED NOTHING HELPED.EGR IS CATCHING VACUUM PROPERLY. AS SOON AS WE RACE VACUUM OPENS THE EGR VALVE

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 16, 2010

    I do not see a switch other than the neutral safety switch.

  • pammyreet1 May 17, 2010

    There was one switch but someone has removed the switch saying that it has no use. what switch is that

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 17, 2010

    Where was that switch located? Was it behind the clutch pedal or somewhere else? Is the wiring still there? Can you touch wires together and/or twist them together and try running it?

  • pammyreet1 May 17, 2010

    yes it was in between clutch pedal mechanism. wires are there . they have taped and left wires like that.

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 17, 2010

    I personally would get another switch and put it in there. That may just fix your problem. I didn't seen one for this car but the ones I was looking at was different years and motors.

  • pammyreet1 May 17, 2010

    mine is skoda octavia 1.9 tdi . manufacturing 2003. i think it is same as volskwagon golf model. switch was there 100 percent. only 2 wires connect to the switch

  • pammyreet1 May 17, 2010

    if you have etos program you may be able to see the part there

  • pammyreet1 May 17, 2010

    are you there

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 17, 2010

    I don't have that program. I use alldata diy.

  • pammyreet1 May 17, 2010

    hi mechanis opened the head and now says that valves are leaking. but i doubt .may be he was finguring with timing and must have damaged it.

  • pammyreet1 May 17, 2010

    are you there

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 17, 2010

    That may be possible. The valve guides may be leaking. It is hard to damage head while timing, but it isn't impossible. To much torque can damage the guides or bend lifters or pushrods.

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 17, 2010

    Like I was saying before. Valves that need timing or adjusment can cause a power loss. SInce they are leaking, that would definately drop down the psi in the head.

  • pammyreet1 May 17, 2010

    they say they checked head with some oil or something. can you pls explain how it is done

  • pammyreet1 May 17, 2010

    how do they check for head leakage. do you suggest we should change head gasket once head is repaired

  • pammyreet1 May 17, 2010

    are you there

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 17, 2010

    Most head checks are done with a compression tester to see how much psi the head can handle. Then there is also a kwick test machine that test the heads for cracks or leaks.
    If the pressure is good, then the gasket is good. If the headgasket was leaking or bad, you would be loosing antifreeze or have antifreeze mixed with your oil.


  • pammyreet1 May 17, 2010

    thanks lets wait till tom head will be repaired and fitted. will let you know by tom evening.

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 18, 2010

    Ok sounds good. I have been trying to learn about these cars as much as I can. Hopefully a head job will fix this right up.

  • pammyreet1 May 20, 2010

    sorry i was in travelling and out of town. man are working on it. head is repaired and been fitted . will let you soon as i get details .

  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield May 20, 2010

    I'm anxious to find out. I've been talking to fellow mechanic buddies, and researching other people's problems with that car, and going over everything we have discussed. Seems that it was likely it was the upper engine that would cause the problem. Head, valves, turbo, something in that area as we have been discussing.

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Generally when a car will not reach top speed its either a clogged caralytic converter, a dirty or failed MAF sensor. Low pressure on the fuel pump. The exhaust can be checked for excessive backpressure using a pressure gauge inserted in the 02sensor hole. Also try driving the car with the 02 removed and wired up to prevent damage. If you still have the problem this will eliminate the exhaust as being the problem. The MAf can be cleaned using brake cleaner. Look at the wires before cleaning. They should be silver. Not gray or blk. If the sensor cannot feel the airflow then it wont be able to add the correct amount of fuel. As far asfuel pressure you will need a gauge hooked up in order to know whats going on. Also a fuel pressure regulator could have failed.

Posted on May 16, 2010

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    THANKS FOR PROMPT REPLY. MY CAR IS SKODA OCTAVIA TDI 1.9 . IT HAS DEISEL PUMP AND WE HAVE CHAGED DEISEL PUMP AND SAME PROBLEM. I HAVE PUT NEW AIR MARSER SENSOR. FOR SILENCER WE HAVE ALREADY REMOVED CATALYSTIC CONVERTER AND CHECKED FULL SILENSOR FOR CLOGGING. WHICE WIRE DID YOU MEAN SHOULD NOT BE BLACK. ALSO MY CAR HAS O2 SENSOR OR NO ?

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    ARE YOU THERE

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Actually, that is just about right

VW and quite a few other companies have built speed limitations into their computers for ALL North American vehicles

where do you live and what is the legal speed limit?
do you have any lights on the dash?

Posted on May 16, 2010

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  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    i leave in india and before this my car use to touch 180 km speed easily but now a days it takes too much time and effort to reach 150 km speed. in fsecond gear i can not feel its power . it has lost power

  • Sean Reisdorf
    Sean Reisdorf May 16, 2010

    well if you used to go faster, and you have no codes, then the first thing I would check would be exhaust back pressure

    possible exhaust restriction from the cat



  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    HOW TO CHECK EXHAUST BACK PRESSURE

  • Sean Reisdorf
    Sean Reisdorf May 16, 2010

    install a vacuum gauge on a manifold source
    measure vacuum at idle
    run the rpm to 2000 and watch vacuum
    if vacuum falls gradually then you have a restriction and suspect the cat



  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    CAN YOU PLS SHOW IN PICTURE WHERE TO PUT GAUGE IN MY CAR. I HAVE SKODA OCTAVIA 1.9 TDI DEISEL CAR

  • pammyreet1 May 16, 2010

    ALSO WHAT RANGE OF VACUUM GAUGE IS NEEDED

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Hello,

Thanks for using FixYa.

You might want to check the Intake filter and see if it needs to be replaced or cleaned. Also, make sure that you also try to change your fuel filter every 2 years because if this gets clogged, the engine will not get enough fuel pressure.

I hope this helps. Thanks and good day.
HotRatchet

Posted on May 15, 2010

  • pammyreet1 May 15, 2010

    thanks . also i would like to tell you that mine in skoda octavia 1.9 tdi deisel engine car and it has lost power in second and third gear . it feels like it is non turbo car and power is missing

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