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SOURCE: THE HORN NO LONGER WORKS

I think he may have just bent the connection that activates the horn. Does it honk when you turn the wheel one way or the other? Try that and let me know what the out come is.

Posted on Jul 21, 2008

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SOURCE: air bag light stays on & horn does not work

replace the clock-spring ribbon contact under the steering wheel, that is the problem, u have lost the connection due to a broken ribbon contact.

Posted on Jan 27, 2009

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SOURCE: Would appreciate help for a Toyota Corolla 2007 non-working horn.

If the horn works with direct connection, and fuse, relay, and circuit breaker are all good, it's the switch in the steering wheel. If it is anything like the chrysler auto's, the switch and the air bag module is all one unit, can't replace just the switch, the whole thing, and it's about $700 to $800 for those units, at least it is here, and can only get them at a dealer.

Posted on Mar 24, 2009

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SOURCE: how do you remove the steering wheel to check horn

there is a horn relay to check yet.steering connections don't usually go bad,ultra rare.

Posted on Oct 28, 2009

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SOURCE: 98 grand caravan horn stuck on, removed the horn

Sounds like it. Can't you take the horn pad off.

Posted on Jan 09, 2010

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I have a 1998 chrysler concorde. The airbag light on the dash stays on and my horn doesnt work. How do i fix this without costing me tons of money?


Could be a wiring problem or the clockspring in the steering column.
You would need to pull the steering wheel and test the circuits.

Mar 26, 2015 | Chrysler Cars & Trucks

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My horn on my 1994 Ford Taurus doesn't work and the fuse is fine I just reconnected the wire that connects the two small horns but it still won't work.can u give me an idea on how to fix it


Check the horn relay and for voltage at the horn. If you are getting voltage to the horn, then the it could be that the horns themselves are bad.

May 03, 2014 | Cars & Trucks

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I have a 1995 ford crown victoria lx. Had to remove horn relay due to horn started blowing when I would turn. How can I fix this problem cause I really need my horn


It's usually the contacts in the steering wheel behind the horn and air bag. You will have to remove the air bag to access the horn contacts. Make sure you remove the battery terminals from the battery before working on any air bag system! You may have to pull the steering wheel completely, depending on the setup. You can rent the puller from your local parts store. If you can not adjust the wires/contacts for the horn, you may have to buy a new set. Fairly inexpensive, but they may have to order the part, in which you will have to put everything back together until the part comes in, and then start back over. I was able to access mine in my Crown Victoria by just removing the air bag, hopefully it's the same. Hope this helps!

Dec 07, 2013 | Cars & Trucks

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Horn blows by itself


I verify its not a stuck relay...

I disconnect connector under dash and horn stops...


I then suspect its the Horn contacts or a worn grounded wire in air bag/horn switch assembly in steering wheel.




The decorative Vinyl cover shrinks with age...presses on horn contacts against air bag.

I Disconnect Air bag connector (identified as Yellow wire and Connector) usually under dash.

WARNING: ( I Do not - I DO NoT probe the yellow harness/connector with a meter or test light. A test light WILL Detonate my air bag, and impale the bracket in a nearby object/person - me.)

I Removed screws (2) behind steering wheel - which allow air bag horn assembly to be removed.


I Disconnect Air bag connector in this location as well (identified as Yellow wire and Connector) and then;




The red (color varies) and black Horn wires will be plugged into ribbon connectors usually (2) two that feed/connect to contacts for horn function on face of air bag.

I pause here and verify horn will stop blowing when I disconnect the wires going to horn contacts. So I get horn blowing again...

Check horn: To verify this is the cause; I reconnect (whatever fuse/relay/ connector (Not the airbag connector) I disconnected so they will stop blowing) and get horn/s so they are blowing again...

Then I disconnect the ribbon connectors to verify blowing stops.

Note: The experience I had with horn on

Buick Park Ave was at night when temperature cools after hot day, the vinyl cover shrank and horn blows... pressing on horn area of steering wheel firmly would stop horn briefly - then continue.

Note: I will need a rivet tool and rivets... to reassemble.

WARNING: I Do not drill into airbag explosive container. If I do not know how to carefully drill off correct rivet heads and remove vinyl decorative cover from air bag/horn... I STOP and go to the junkyard or ebay and purchase/replace the airbag/horn assembly.

I continued by drilling out rivets (the rivets holding vinyl cover) by using a drill bit as large (or smaller) as the head of rivet and drill gently to release head from rivet body/shank.



I mark all pieces with a magic marker to verify I reassemble right side up (all metal brackets and trim plates and cover).



I Remove vinyl cover exposing horn contact pads which were sandwiched between cover and air bag container.

I used a razor blade to remove vinyl honeycomb material from area of vinyl cover - that when pressed - would activate horn/contacts.

Only a 1/16 of an inch or less needs to be removed.

(I Bend cover inside out and shave material off of area slowly. Care not to cut myself.)

I Reassemble in reverse order with rivets.

Check horn: ...function at this point... by plugging in horn connectors and assure horn contacts work properly as expected.





Feb 21, 2013 | 1997 Oldsmobile 88

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There is no horn on my 1996 Dodge Neon, if there is it does not work and I can not locate it anywhere. Where is the horn located and how can I fix it?


the Relay Horn may be bad. the horn is located behind the drivers side headlight underneath the windsheild washer resevoir. You get to it by removing the plasic shield inside the fender around the tire. for 96 dodge neon.

Mar 07, 2011 | 1996 Dodge Neon

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AIR BAG REMOVAL


Hello: Are you wanting to remove the driver air bag? If so remove the horn pad, that is the drivers air bag, be careful when removing so you don't break the connections for the air bag and horn. You will need a special tool to release the assembly. Tool available at Auto Zone, Advance Auto, or O'Riely.

Jan 10, 2011 | 1997 GMC Sonoma

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My car's horn actives every time I turn the steering wheel. What do you think is causing it to go off?


My 2000 Cirrus had the same problem.

Before I describe how I fixed mine, a warning and disclaimer:
Working on the horn switch, clock spring and steering column requires working safely with the air bag module. An airbag that goes off unintentionally can cause serious or fatal injuries. If you don't know how to handle the air bag safely, do not attempt to fix this yourself!

Symptom: Horn sounds when steering wheel is turned or with slight movement of the air bag module in the center of the steering wheel.

Possible causes:
1. Deteriorated insulators under the air bag mounting bracket screws. (This is what caused the problem in my case.)
2. Warped or bent steering wheel or air bag module.
3. Short circuit in clock spring assembly.
4. Short circuit in steering column due to abraded or pinched wire.
5. Faulty horn relay. (Very unlikely if the horn only sounds when turning the wheel.)

How the "horn switch" works: The term "horn switch" is a bit of a misnomer because there is no identifiable "switch" as one might think. The "switch" is actually a combination of parts: The four air bag bracket mounting screws, four plastic bushings and washers that insulate the air bag mounting brackets from the screws which are fastened to the grounded steering column, four springs under the bushings and the metal back side of the airbag module. The horn wire, which comes from the horn relay up the steering column and through he clock spring, is connected to the left hand mounting bracket which is electrically connected to the back of the airbag module which is electrically connected to the right hand mounting bracket when everything is assembled. When the air bag module is pushed in, the metal back contacts one or more of the four air bag module mounting screws completing the circuit to ground and thus activating the horn relay.

Troubleshooting:
1. Disconnect the negative battery terminal on the strut tower under the hood and pull the two 10 A air bag fuses from the fuse panel on the left side of the dash.

WARNING!: WAIT TWO MINUTES TO ALLOW THE AIR BAG SYSTEM CAPACITOR TO DISCHARGE BEFORE PROCEEDING. NEVER DISCONNECT OR RECONNECT THE AIR BAG MODULE ELECTRICAL CONNECTOR UNLESS THE NEGATIVE BATTERY TERMINAL HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED FOR AT LEAST TWO MINUTES. FAILURE TO HEED THIS WARNING COULD RESULT IN UNEXPECTED DEPLOYMENT OF THE AIR BAG RESULTING IN INJURY OR DEATH.

2. Loosen the two torx head screws on the back of the steering wheel that secure the air bag module to the wheel. The screws are captive in plastic retainers, so don't try to remove them.

3. Remove the air bag module, pull out the connector lock and disconnect the air bag module connector.

4. Place the air bag module on a flat surface connector side down away from where you are working.

5. Locate the four air bag mounting bracket screws. Look for black gritty debris around the screw heads and inside the steering wheel. This is an indication that the top insulating washers have deteriorated allowing the mounting brackets to short out to the screws.

6. Now reconnect the battery negative lead and do the following tests:

a. Move the left hand bracket slightly. If the horn sounds, then the top side insulating washers are either gone or deteriorated. If you want to test the right hand bracket, you will need to connect a jumper wire between the brackets. If one washer is cracked or missing, it is likely they all are.

b. Disconnect the horn wire from the left hand bracket. Start the car and turn the steering wheel to the stop in both directions. If the horn still sounds, then you have either a bad clock spring or a short circuit in the steering column.

The repair if the insulating washers are bad:

The official Chrysler repair manual says to replace the steering wheel (about $260); however, there is a cheaper solution.

1. Remove the four air bag bracket mounting screws, bushings, springs and the two brackets, paying careful attention to how they are assembled so you can re-assemble them later.

2. Clean any debris, dirt and grease from the brackets and undersides of the screw heads.

3. Purchase or fabricate some thin insulating (plastic) washers to replace the ones that deteriorated, which unfortunately you cannot buy from Chrysler. I insulated my brackets and screws with kapton insulating tape plus some very thin plastic washers I cut from some blister pack packaging scrap (probably clear polystyrene). This plastic is very thin, but still is pretty tough. Some hollow punches are handy for punching the holes and making nice round washers, but you could probably do it with small scissors or your wife's scrapbook punches if you are careful.

4. Reassemble the air bag mounting brackets to the steering wheel placing the new insulating washers and/or tape between the screw heads and brackets.

5. Reconnect the horn wire to the left hand bracket and move the bracket around a bit. If the horn doesn't sound, then you likely have fixed the problem. Once again, to test the right hand bracket, you need to jumper the left and right brackets together.

6. Disconnect the negative battery lead and wait at least two minutes before proceeding to ensure the air bag capacitor is discharged.

7. Reconnect the air bag connector to the air bag module and insert connector lock.

8. Reassemble the air bag module to the steering wheel.

9. Reconnect the negative battery lead and test the horn. It should blow only when the air bag module is pushed in. Start the car and turn the wheel to both extremes to test the repair.
If the horn sounds continuously, then the washers you put in are two thick causing the air bag module to rest on the screw heads.

10. Turn the car off and reinsert the two 10 A air bag fuses, then restart the car and make sure the air bag light comes on briefly then goes off.

Hope you find this helpful.

Aug 31, 2010 | 2000 Chrysler Cirrus

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1994 Buick LeSabre horn is stuck on. Unplugged


Replace air bag. Not servicable to repair horn. Special bits are used to remove it. Get a used one

Apr 06, 2010 | 1994 Buick LeSabre

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