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Starter turns but no ignition, PK3 M security

Starter turns but no ignition PK3 M security the problem is intermittent and does not cause a problem with every start. So far I have been able to get it started after several attempts with differing starting attempts. Internet search seems to point to the security the key is identified with the PK3 M

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I have an 03 montana intermittant no start, security light flashes at the time of no start. Under the steering colom is a plug that comes fron the ignition with 4 wires pink , orng , blk, ppl. follow the wires and there is a plug. Try unpluging it then plug back in and try to start vehicle. If it starts then what i have done with it was wire in a relay that cuts power on ignition off and will power the module up on ignition.

blk to # 85 on relay, cut orng and attach one to # 30, the other to # 87, then attach pink to # 86. I have this working for 3 months so far no more intermittant start.

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Where is the ignition switch at , on the steering column ? Did you transfer the theft deterrent control module from the old column to the new one ? Do you have any lights lit on the dash , SECURITY ? Your car has a anti-theft system , the key has a transponder pellet imbedded in the head of it . Behind the plastic cover of the steering column ,around the ignition lock cylinder is the theft deterrent control module an antenna !
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