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#4 cylinder spark plug threads in head pulled out any fix without pulling head or engine to rethread under firewall no room

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  • rgw3000445 May 03, 2010

    no helicoil repair kit available to keep from removing head

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Hello RGW.
You did not mention which engine you have in your Expedition but I suspect it is the 5.4 liter as it is a common issue with them.
I have a tool in my shop that will do the job without removing the heads.
It was a $900 tool that has more than paid for itself over time.
Being the rear cylinder does make the job more difficult to perform but it can be done by a professional tech with experience with the tool.
Phone around for a local shop that has the tool and ask if they will do the repair.
Our local Ford dealer bought the tool when they found out I was doing them with good success.
I bought mine from a company called "Wurth". but Iunderstand that there are others that offer the same or similar tool.
I hope this helps you find a repair that is easier on your pocketbook.

KL

Posted on May 03, 2010

  • FUBAR May 14, 2010

    Heeman probably meant well with his statement but the repair kit actually makes the area stronger than the original.
    I have had no problem with any of the repairs that I have done on the Ford heads.
    Properly done it will work very well.


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From what you have posted I understand the thread where the spark plug is meant to be sitting is faulty.If this is what you mean then there is no other option but removing the head and rework the thread. I hope I have cleared your mind and understood your problem here.

Posted on May 03, 2010

  • heeman mohun May 03, 2010

    There is no repair kit that can safely fix this problem. I would like to point out that there is high compression in the combustion chamber and no repair kit can safely fix your problem. Best thing is to remove the head and take it to a machine shop where it can be fixed. I hope you realise the amount of compression underneath the head.

  • FUBAR Dec 01, 2010

    What did you end up doing with this repair?

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Fig. On the 5VZ-FE engine, you must remove the coil for access to the spark plug

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Fig. Once loosened, carefully withdraw the spark plug from the cylinder head

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