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When trying to start van, doesnt start, comes up starting disabled, after a bunch of tries, shifting from neutral to park, etc, the van starts. Last night finally started then said service theft deterrent. can you help?

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  • aacross118 Apr 28, 2010

    i just went out, first try, van started. shut off, tried again, won't start now, comes up starting disabled, using the chip key. to throw this at you too, a few yrs ago, we put in a remote starter. the bypass would not work with the kit, so the service tech took my other chip key and mounted up under the dash, near the ignition, so the remote start would run the van, which worked perfect. now, the issue i currently have has happened in the past, wouldn't start, but only for a few minutes, then would start perfectly for months before doing it again. now it is the worst, i can't trust to drive it very far. any ideas? thanks.

  • aacross118 Apr 28, 2010

    any other ideas?

  • aacross118 Apr 28, 2010

    is there a certain fuse I should check? checked for the inst. panel fusebox which is supposed to be uder the pass side dash but can't find? any ideas?

  • aacross118 Apr 28, 2010

    would the chip key mounted under the dash interfere with the other chip key? also, we had plain keys cut when this key was mounted under the dash with no chips in them, and they start the van normally, because that chip key mounted tricks the system.

  • aacross118 Apr 28, 2010

    I will try some of the suggestions, thanks.

  • aacross118 Apr 28, 2010

    took the panel apart under the steering column, found the chip key that the installer had taped up under there and removed. van started all 5 times i tried, seems as though this hidden key is what had been causing all the problems. i am keeping my fingers crossed....thanks

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Swap the remote key. Try one key one day another the next. Don't mount it - just leave it to where it is closer to the key slot. Sounds like interference or a weak battery - or perhaps a damaged chip. Dropped key/exposure. This is of course a long shot but I am guessing you tried all the more traditional fixes.
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    Gary Rice Apr 28, 2010

    Again - I suggest you remove the mounted key and swap it out. When you're diagnosing something like this and especially when you're not doing it 'by the book' experience tells one to never over look a possibility.
    Gary


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    Gary Rice Apr 28, 2010

    How about rating me 4 hands for trying and I am not leaving you here - it is a progressive thing when working to repair electronics. One other thing - have you tried to "hot wire" of bypass the neutral safety switch as this is what changing gears does. Also - take down the VIN# and call a local dealer: ask them about RECALLS or Service Bulletins. The web sometimes misses both and doesn't list them except for a fee.
    Gary

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Your vehicle is equipped with the PASS-Key II (Personalized Automotive Security System) theft-deterrent system. PASS-Key II is a passive theft-deterrent system. It works when you insert or remove the key from the ignition. PASS-Key II uses a resistor pellet in the ignition key that matches a decoder in your vehicle. When the PASS-Key II system senses that someone is using the wrong key, it shuts down the vehicle’s starter and fuel systems. For about three minutes, the starter won’t work and fuel won’t go to the engine. If someone tries to start your vehicle again or uses another key during this time, the vehicle will not start. This discourages someone from randomly trying different keys with different resistor pellets in an attempt to make a match.

The ignition key must be clean and dry before it’s inserted in the ignition or the engine may not start. If the engine does not start and the SECURITY light stays on when you try to start the vehicle, the key may be dirty or wet. Turn the ignition Off. Clean and dry the key. Wait about three minutes and try again. The SECURITY light may remain on during this time. If the starter still won’t work, and the key appears to be clean and dry, wait about three minutes and try another ignition key. At this time, you may also want to check the fuses (see “Fuses and Circuit Breakers” in the Index). If the starter won’t work with the other key, your vehicle needs service. If your vehicle does start, the first ignition key may be faulty. See your dealer or a locksmith who can service the PASS-Key II. If you accidentally use a key that has a damaged or missing resistor pellet, the starter won’t work. The SECURITY light will flash. But you don’t have to wait


Three minutes before trying another ignition key. See your dealer or a locksmith who can service the PASS-Key II to have a new key made. If you’re ever driving and the SECURITY light comes on and stays on, you will be able to restart your engine if you turn it off. Your PASS-Key II system, however, is not working properly and must be serviced by your dealer. Your vehicle is not protected by the PASS-Key II system. If you lose or damage a PASS-Key II ignition key, see your dealer or a locksmith who can service PASS-Key II to have a new key made. In an emergency, call the Pontiac Roadside Assistance Center at 1-800-ROADSIDE or 1-800-762-3743. (In Canada call 1-800-268-6800.) -Key

Posted on Apr 28, 2010

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    INDIRA KUMAR Apr 28, 2010

    Donot forget to rate and accept my answer if satisfied...

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    INDIRA KUMAR Apr 28, 2010

    No ideas anyway check the ignition ....See if any problem with them...Donot forget to rate and accept my answer

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