Question about 2000 Renault 181

3 Answers

I had my cars shoes,drums and cylinders changed in oct 09 and now the bearings have gone - should they have done this or would this have not been picked up???

Posted by on

Ad

3 Answers

  • Level 2:

    An expert who has achieved level 2 by getting 100 points

    MVP:

    An expert that got 5 achievements.

    Governor:

    An expert whose answer got voted for 20 times.

    Scholar:

    An expert who has written 20 answers of more than 400 characters.

  • Expert
  • 55 Answers

This all depends if your car was in for a service with the main dealer, normally these are examined by the technicians with a simple test or if your car was just booked in for a repair job, and or the mileage you did from your last garage visit, anyhow if we are talking about renault's with drums and cylinders most likely a Clio or R19 the bearings come in the form of one bearing for one side, and are not adjustable,a correction for the Best Solution, Renault's Bearings normally when worn start making noises and get worse as time goes by until they are noticeable by the driver or a mechanic, but back to the real question any professional technician after carrying out such repairs would at least turn the wheels by hand and listen to the noise if any produced by the wheels/bearings, and of course a road test would have been carried out after such major repairs, as i a renault technician would have carried out.
I hope this information was somewhat helpful.

Posted on Apr 27, 2010

Testimonial: "Yes very helpful thank you as a woman who do not understand mechanical problems with cars and did not want to be taken for a ride"

Ad
  • Level 3:

    An expert who has achieved level 3 by getting 1000 points

    Superstar:

    An expert that got 20 achievements.

    All-Star:

    An expert that got 10 achievements.

    MVP:

    An expert that got 5 achievements.

  • Master
  • 771 Answers

The brake components are fixed and apply friction to the wheel hub assemblies rotating on the bearings mounted onto the stub axles. During the course of refurbishing the brakes the bearings would not normally be looked at unless there was clear evidence that a bearing malfunction had contributed to uneven disc wear. However I am surprised at the claim that all four bearings have now gone at the same time. Generally if too much play is detected (MOT test is the most usual point of detecting such a thing) the nut on the end of the stub axle can be tightened and then released one flat at a time until the requisite amount of play is reintroduced into the bearing. 'Play' in a bearing therefore is not necessarily a call for immediate replacement as there could be a quick cheap remedy. A badly worn bearing in contrast makes such a nasty grinding sound that one is compelled to change it.

Posted on Apr 27, 2010

Testimonial: "Thank you for all your help and advice being a woman I did not know if this was an excuse for more money to be gained by the garage."

Ad
  • Level 2:

    An expert who has achieved level 2 by getting 100 points

    MVP:

    An expert that got 5 achievements.

    Governor:

    An expert whose answer got voted for 20 times.

    New Friend:

    An expert that has 1 follower.

  • Expert
  • 76 Answers

The bearings can go at any time m8 they could of been fine when u took the car to the garage but who knows? best to get them replaced elsewhere

Posted on Apr 27, 2010

1 Suggested Answer

6ya6ya
  • 2 Answers

SOURCE: I have freestanding Series 8 dishwasher. Lately during the filling cycle water hammer is occurring. How can this be resolved

Hi,
a 6ya Mechanic can help you resolve that issue over the phone in a minute or two.
Best thing about this new service is that you are never placed on hold and get to talk to real repair professionals here in the US.
click here to Talk to a Mechanic (only for users in the US for now) and get all the help you need.
Goodluck!

Posted on Jan 02, 2017

Add Your Answer

Uploading: 0%

my-video-file.mp4

Complete. Click "Add" to insert your video. Add

×

Loading...
Loading...

Related Questions:

1 Answer

I have a 23 t bucket and i cant get a brake pedal.when i bought it had very little brake so i replaced rear shoes and cylinders,front pads and calipers,all new lines and the master cylinder


Once you have bled the air from the brake lines,clamp off the front brake hoses carefully.Does the pedal feel better now?
Then the pad /caliper fit is allowing too much play.Is the pedal the same?Then clamp the rear hose and try the pedal.Is it fine with the rear hose clamped?If so we now know the problem is at the rear brakes.One common low pedal rear brake cause is brake shoes that do not fit the drums.Remove the drums and look at the shoes,are they showing contact wear fully or just in the middle of the shoe?Remove a shoe and place it in the drum.Can you rock the shoe against the drum surface?Once drums have been resurfaced,the shoes will not fit fully against the drum allowing the shoe the flex when applying pressure to it and this can easily create a low soft brake pedal. Of course rear brake adjustment must be correct once brake shoe contact is correct.To correct brake shoe contact,have your shoes re arc-ed to fit resurfaced drums or install new drums.Don't overlook brake master cyl /brake pedal push rod adjustment too.

Jun 24, 2017 | Cars & Trucks

2 Answers

Adjusting Kia rio handbrake cable


The brake drum does not fit due to the pressure in brake cylinders. Some of the cylinders are designed to keep a little pressure on, even when the pedal is released. The reason is that you will have instant reaction on pushing break pedal because there is no free space between drum and pads. You need to take clamp and push the pistons back in cylinder, but only that much so you can fit the drum. After the drum is tightened you must pump the brake pedal until you can fell that there is no free fall. The hand brake should be ok, but check it just to be shore. If there is need to tension the cable, it can be done under lever from outside the car (you must go under the car).

Apr 28, 2014 | 2002 Kia Rio

1 Answer

Need illustration for rear drum brakes


Long shoe in the back,ilIllustration is at the bottom of the page for some reason,scroll down!
Click on a part in the image to check price & availability at your local store.print_icon.gifPRINT DIAGRAM1.imageVIEW SOLUTIONS TO COMMON PROBLEMSpartstab.gif

listarrow_icon.gifBrake Shoeslistarrow_icon.gifBrake Drumlistarrow_icon.gifWheel Cylinderlistarrow_icon.gifBrake Lines and Hoseslistarrow_icon.gifBrake Hardwarelistarrow_icon.gifBearings & Sealslistarrow_icon.gifThe Parking Brakelistarrow_icon.gifFlushing the Systemsolutiontab.gif
Select a part to view solution for common problems associated with the item.Operation: Brake shoes provide the friction material that when forced against the friction surface of the drum stops the vehicle. Advice: Check the old brake shoes for uneven wear. Uneven wear from one side of the shoe to the other is an indication of loose or worn brake hardware. Uneven wear from the top of the shoe to the bottom is indication that the shoe is not contacting the drum correctly, usually due to a drum that is beyond wear specifications. Recommendations: Brake hardwareOperation: The brake drum provides the rotating friction surface for the brake shoes to interact with in stopping the vehicle. Advice: Check the friction surface for uneven wear, grooves or small stress cracks caused by excess heat. Uneven wear is an indication of lose or worn brake hardware. Grooves in the friction surface are an indication of brake shoes that have worn down to the metal rivets or brake shoe framework, or of debris lodged between the brake shoe and drum, possibly broken brake hardware. As long as the damage is not too severe, uneven wear can be corrected by resurfacing the drum. Check to make sure that the drum is within specifications before and after the resurfacing. A drum with heat stress cracks should be replaced. Recommendations: Resurface or replace the brake drums.Operation: The wheel cylinder converts the hydraulic pressure sent from the master cylinder into the mechanical force that pushes the brake shoes into contact with the brake drum to stop the vehicle. Advice: Check for moisture anywhere around the wheel cylinder. Moisture is an indication of a leaking wheel cylinder. A leaking wheel cylinder should be either rebuilt or replaced. If a wheel cylinder is allowed to leak brake fluid onto the new shoes, it will ruin the new shoes causing the brakes to grab and emit a growling or rumbling noise when applied. Recommendations: Rebuild or replace leaking wheel cylinders.Operation: The brake lines act as a conduit for the brake fluid, supplying each wheel with the hydraulic action necessary for brake operation. The system is made up predominantly with metal brake lines. Flexible hoses are used at the wheels to accomadate the movement of suspension and steering. Advice: Check metal brake lines for signs of corrosion, physical damage or leakage. Check flexible brake hoses for splits, cracking or signs of leakage. The brake lines are connected to the various brake components with hollow fittings called flare nuts or line fittings. Because flare nuts are hollow they are susceptible to damage if a normal open ended wrench is used to remove them. Flare nut wrenches, sometimes called line wrenches are special open ended wrenches designed to slide over the brake line and still provide maximum grip on all sides of the fitting. Apply a generous spray of penetrating oil to the threads of the fittings and allow it to soak in before loosening the fittings. Recommendations: Flare Nut Wrench set Penetrating sprayOperation: Brake hardware is a term used for all of the springs, clips, guide pins and other misc. pieces that hold the brake pads and calipers in place and guide their movement during brake application. Advice: Check for corroded, bent, worn out or broken springs, guide pins or clips. Damaged or worn out brake hardware can cause uneven wear on the new brake pads. To ensure the best results from your brake job, the brake hardware should be replaced with the new brake pads. Recommendations: Replace Brake hardwareOperation: The wheel bearings support the weight of the vehicle and allow the wheels to spin freely. Advice: All wheels will have some sort of bearing and a seal to hold in lubricant and keep out dirt. Some bearings are sealed in a hub assembly or pressed into an axle housing and can only be serviced by replacing them. Others such as tapered roller bearings can be cleaned inspected and repacked with grease. Use a can of spray brake cleaner to remove the old grease. Check the integrity of the cage holding the rollers in place. A loose wobbly cage is an indication of wear. Check the rollers for discoloration. Discoloration is an indication that the bearing has been subjected to excess heat and should be replaced. Always install a new race when replacing a bearing. Always install a new seal whenever servicing or replacing a bearing. Recommendations: Spray Brake cleaner Wheel bearing grease Wheel sealOperation: The parking brake on a drum brake system has a series of cables that when actuated from the driver's compartment moves the parking brake levers on both rear wheels, forcing the rear brake shoes against the friction surface of the drums to hold the vehicle in place. Advice: With the parking brake disengaged and the drum removed, check to ensure that the brake shoes are fully seated at the top and bottom anchors. If not the parking brake cable may be sticking internally and holding the brake shoes partially applied. A sticking parking brake cable should be replaced. Never adjust the parking brake cable until after normal brake shoe adjustment has been made. After normal brake shoe adjustment if the parking brake still does not hold the vehicle stationary, then the parking brake cable can be adjusted.Operation: Flushing the brake fluid removes old or contaminated brake fluid from the system replacing it with fresh brake fluid. Advice: Brake fluid is a hygroscopic fluid, which means that it is in its nature to absorb moisture from the air. Over time the amount of moisture accumulated will decrease the efficiency of the fluid to act hydraulically. Moisture in the brake fluid can also cause corrosion in the system. Brake fluid should be flushed every two years. Recommendations: Brake fluid

Apr 01, 2012 | 1994 Chevrolet K1500

1 Answer

How do you release the rear brakr shoes to remove the drum and bearings?


Remove or disconnect the following:
  • Rear wheel
  • Wheel speed sensor, if equipped
  • Brake drum, bearing and spindle assembly
  • Brake shoe hold-down springs and pins
  • Brake shoe assembly from the wheel cylinder and anchor block
  • Parking brake cable
  • Lower return spring
  • Upper return spring
  • Primary shoe from the strut and brake shoe adjuster
  • Parking brake return spring
  • Secondary shoe from the strut support
I hope this answers your question. Best of luck!
Greg

Jun 28, 2011 | 2003 Ford Focus

1 Answer

How do you change rear drum brake shoes on a 1999 couger.


SECTION 206-02: Drum Brake 1999 Cougar Workshop Manual REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION Procedure revision date: 09/14/2001 Brake Shoes Removal
  1. Loosen the wheel nuts.
  1. Raise and support the vehicle. For additional information, refer to Section 100-02.
  1. Remove the wheel.
  1. Release the brake shoe automatic adjuster.
    v1201041.jpg
  1. Remove the brake drum.
    1. Remove the retainers (if equipped).
    1. Remove the drum.
    v1201040.jpg
  1. Make sure that the hub flange is in the correct position as shown.
    v1201042.jpg
  1. Remove the hold down springs.
    m1201030.jpg
  1. Disconnect the parking brake cable.
    1. Lever the secondary shoe outwards.
    1. Disconnect the cable from the secondary shoe.
    v1201043.jpg
  1. Disconnect the shoes from the anchor block.
    1. Disconnect the shoes from the anchor block.
    1. Remove the lower return spring.
    v1201044.jpg
  1. ani_caut.gif CAUTION: Do not damage the wheel cylinder boots.
    Detach the shoes from the wheel cylinder.
    v1201045.jpg
  1. Hold the wheel cylinder pistons in place with a rubber band.
  1. Remove the upper return spring.
    v1201047.jpg
  1. Remove the primary shoe from the strut and brake shoe adjuster.
    1. Rotate the adjuster counterclockwise.
    1. Remove the primary shoe.
    v1201048.jpg
  1. ani_caut.gif CAUTION: Take care as the strut support spring is under tension.
    Detach the secondary shoe from the strut support.
    • Detach the strut from the shoe by levering the strut against the shoe.
    v1201049.jpg
  1. Remove the parking brake return spring.
    v1201050.jpg
Installation
NOTE: Install new shoes as axle sets.
  1. Clean, check and apply Silicon Dielectric Compound D742-18A331-A or equivalent meeting Ford specification ESA-M1C171-A to the backing plate contact points.
    v1201051.jpg
  1. Install the parking brake return spring.
    v1201050.jpg
  1. Install the secondary shoe to the strut and brake shoe adjuster.
    v1201052.jpg
  1. Install the primary shoe to the strut and brake shoe adjuster.
    1. Install the primary shoe.
    1. Rotate the adjuster fully clockwise.
    v1201053.jpg
  1. Install the upper return spring.
    v1201047.jpg
  1. Remove the rubber band holding the wheel cylinder pistons in place.
  1. ani_caut.gif CAUTION: Do not damage the wheel cylinder boots.
    Position the shoes to the wheel cylinder.
    v1201140.jpg
  1. Position the shoes to the anchor block.
    1. Install the lower return spring.
    1. Position the shoes to the anchor block.
    v1201141.jpg
  1. Install the hold down springs.
    v1201142.jpg
  1. Install the parking brake cable.
    1. Lever the secondary shoe outwards.
    1. Install the cable to the secondary shoe.
    v1201043.jpg
  1. Install the brake drum.
    1. Install the drum.
    1. Install the retainers (if equipped).
    v1201143.jpg
  1. Install the wheel.
    v1501127.jpg
  1. Operate the brake pedal to achieve automatic adjustment.

2010&c18=modelyear&c20=g167866&c35=wsm%2cbrake%20shoes%2csxu%2c206-02%2cremoval%20and%20installation&s=1249x702&c=32&j=1.3&v=y&k=y&bw=910&bh=359&ct=lan&hp=n&[aqe]

Mar 05, 2011 | 1999 Mercury Cougar

2 Answers

How do i take off the brake drums on a 2003 chevy cavalier


After you remove the tire, the drim should slide off. If it doesn't then try using a rubber mallet and gently tap on the outside edge as you pull on it. Sometimes you also need to tap on the drum in the center part. I have sprayed penetrating lubes like WD-40 or PB Blaster into the seam at the center. You may also have to back off the parking brake cable or even use the adjuster to back off the shoes.

Jan 27, 2011 | 2003 Chevrolet Cavalier

2 Answers

What does it mean whan the right reer tire locks and will not move when it is shifted into both drive and reverse?


If
you have pads on the back then the calliper is seized.If you have drums fitted the the shoes are locked to the drum.Cylinder seized or linnings come away from shoes causing brake lock up.Hope that was help full good luck.

Jul 28, 2009 | 2005 Ford Focus

2 Answers

1993 Ford F-150 drum brake problem


It appears the rear axle shaft seal is leaking. You will need to pull the axle and replace the seal. Then check the rear end for adequate gear oil. The iron filings I am not to sure about. It sounds as if something came loose from the brakes or brake hardware and got chewed up in the drum. You will need to replace the brake shoes and maybe the brake hardware kit. Always change the shoes or pads on both sides when working on brakes, rear or front. If the inside of the drum is not perfectly smooth it will need to be turned or replaced. If this were brake fluid leaking from the wheel cylinder the master cylinder would be low on fluid and your brake pedal would go down much further than normal.

Jul 18, 2009 | 1998 Ford F150 Regular Cab

1 Answer

1999 nissan quest rear brake shoes need changing


help is here:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/villagerquest/

Drum Removal
  1. Remove the rear wheel and the tire assembly. Refer to Section 204-04 .
  1. Retract the brake shoes and loosen the brake adjuster screw.
975565f.gif
  1. Remove the brake drum.
----------------------
May require big hammer to loosen drum from axle flange. Hit between the the lugs, not on them.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#10 is access plug to back off adjusting wheel.

f9f31b5.gif
Item Part Number Description 1 2261 Rear wheel cylinder 2 — Dust boot (part of 2128) 3 2197 Wheel cylinder piston (part of 2261) 4 — Cup (part of 2128) 5 2204 Wheel cylinder piston cup spring (part of 2128) 6 — Wheel cylinder housing (part of 2261) 7 — Brake shoe hold-down pin 8 — Access hole (part of 2212) 9 — Rear brake bleeder screw (part of 2261) 10 — Access hole plug 11 — Rear wheel cylinder bolt 12 2212 Rear brake backing plate 13 — Rear brake backing plate bolts 14 2N790 Parking brake lever clip 15 — Spring washer 16 — Secondary brake shoe and lining (part of 2200) 17 — Brake shoe hold-down spring (part of 2B514) 18 — Lower retracting spring (part of 2B514) 19 2A637 Parking brake lever 20 — Parking brake lever pin 21 2A177 Brake shoe adjusting lever 22 — Adjuster lever pin (part of 2A177) 23 — Primary brake shoe and lining (part of 2200) 24 — Upper retracting spring (part of 2B514) 25 2041 Brake adjuster screw

--------------
Shoes Removal

Take a picture and remember how each part goes and attaches
  1. Remove the brake drum, refer to Drum in this section.
  1. Remove the upper retracting spring.
  1. Remove the lower retracting spring.
  1. Remove the self-adjuster.
38bcaa0.gif
  1. Remove the hold-down springs.
  1. Remove the parking brake lever clip and the parking brake lever.

Apr 17, 2009 | 1999 Nissan Quest

1 Answer

Stuck


Hi my name is Allen!

To change the rear wheel cylinders on your neon, first take the wheel and the drum off, next using the proper size line-wrench take the brakeline off the wheel cylinder, next take the spring off the upper part of the brake shoe and pry back on the upper part of the shoe's, this will give enough space to remove the wheel cylinder without taking all the other parts off the shoes, next, take the 2 bolts off the wheel cylinder that hold it into place and install the new one in reverse procedure.

Note: Do one side at a time, becuse this will make easier to bleed the system. once you have one side done with the drum back on and every thing tight, then you will need someone to help bleed the brakes.

Note: make sure you never run out of fluid in the master cylinder are you will have to start the bleed procedure all over again.

Note: Have the person helping you, pump the brakes 5 times then hold the brake pedal to the floor and make sure they hold it there until you have loosened the bleed nut and tightened it back up again, once you have done that, have them pump the brakes and hold it down again. Do this procedure several times making sure not to run out of fluid in the master cylinder. Once all the air is out of the system replace the other whell cylinder on the other side and bleed it the same way.

Note: make sure before bleeding the system that all components are completely installed, because if you try to bleed the system with the drums off and before placing the shoes back where they belong and installing the spring and drum the wheel cylinder parts will be pushed out of it.

For further asistance you may reach me at FixYa!

Dec 24, 2008 | 1998 Dodge Neon

Not finding what you are looking for?
Cars & Trucks Logo

110 people viewed this question

Ask a Question

Usually answered in minutes!

Top Renault Experts

Colin Stickland
Colin Stickland

Level 3 Expert

22265 Answers

xxxxxx xxx

Level 3 Expert

4886 Answers

yadayada
yadayada

Level 3 Expert

77202 Answers

Are you a Renault Expert? Answer questions, earn points and help others

Answer questions

Manuals & User Guides

Loading...