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2005 Subaru Forester DAughters CAr 500 miles away. Mechanic says engine seized but they filled the crankcase which they said was empty with oil.CAr was bought new and always serviced.I fear the mechanic may be dishonest.No sign of leaks and engine did not smoke prior.

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  • gerry_elson Apr 24, 2010

    Subaru had a T.S.B. on this engine in 2005.requiring new short block. ANY ONE HERE OF THESE FAILING

  • gerry_elson Apr 24, 2010

    Driving at highway speed.Says engine made a noise sqeaking knocking rattling etc.Pulled over and to wed to garage.This car has 65k on it and has never smoked or leaked.Regular service since new.
    The thing that makes me smell a rat is they said the crankcase was empty so they filled with oil-why if it is seized. No warning lights or heat gage just before.

  • gerry_elson Apr 24, 2010

    Thanks I'm thinking they knew about this since there was a TSB in 2005.Yours was a well thought out answer.

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Please forgive me but I need some more details. Did it die while driving? Would it just not start? Did it get hot? What did she see, smell or hear? I understand the dilema and will try my best to walk you guys through this issue.

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    Kori Policy Apr 24, 2010

    I guess my next question would be, "did she just have the oil changed?". Could be someone else is responsible. Have her get the owners handbook out and find the customer service hotline which is usually in the front of the book(could also be at the very back) and have her call(or you, they will need the VIN which can also be found on the registration). They may be aware of this issue and be able to help out with repairs and possibly get it out of the shop it's at.

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    Kori Policy Apr 24, 2010

    Here's the info for that TSB - TSB #166806, NHTSA #10020531, TSB date 9 Oct 2006














    TSB Number: 029605
    NHTSA Number: 10016869
    TSB Date: September 9, 2005






    TSB Number: 029605
    NHTSA Number: 10016869
    TSB Date: September 9, 2005





    TSB Number: 029605
    NHTSA Number: 10016869
    TSB Date: September 9, 2005




    TSB Number: 029605
    NHTSA Number: 10016869
    TSB Date: September 9, 2005



    TSB Number: 029605
    NHTSA Number: 10016869
    TSB Date: September 9, 2005

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    Kori Policy Apr 24, 2010

    Sorry it didn't look like all the copy and pasting had shown up!

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    Kori Policy Apr 24, 2010

    You are very welcome. You can email me at iambanshee74@yahoo.com if you need any further help. I've seen alot of daughters come into my shops over the years and I always end up wanting to talk to the father(since they usually flip the bill anyways, lol), but to reassure them that their kid is being taken care of and not being ripped off. Plus, if it were my daughter(which is almost at driving age, uhg!), I would come unglued if someone was trying to take advantage of her!!

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Have someone remove the spark plugs from the engine,and add transmission fluid,in each cylinders,and let it set a while,maybe thirty minutes,then using a 1/2 drive ratchet,and socket,and turn the crankshaft clock wise,try and turn,hoping it will unseize the rings on the pistons,if the engine frees up,have then turn the engine by hand three or four complete revolutions,then use the starter to turn the engine over and over.Then replace the spark plugs,and see if it will run,and it will smoke a while until the transmission fluid is burned off.It is not hardly normal for a oil light,and temp light never came on,so try this to see what happens,to see if this will help.

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    Ronny Bennett Sr. Apr 24, 2010

    They may have filled it with oil to see if it would free it up,if this happened,the oil loss,it is possible,but really strange,that no oil light,or temp light came on,and the oil had to have come out,somewhere,all at once,burning oil would have been gradual ,not something that would go unnoticed ,and there should be a sign of leakage somewhere,on the engine,,,,After the incident,the car was stopped,did was the engine still running?,And was it restarted shortly afterwards?Did the mechanics try turning the engine manually?I would check the block to make sure there is not a rod hanging out the side of it,and has not been seen.I have seen them trow a rod threw the block,for no reason,and loose all the oil that way.Inspect the engine very good,then look at the timing belt and components there in,there maybe something else that has caused the problem,maybe something in the flywheel,or the starter is stuck,engaged,Did the mechanics try and turn the engine manually?

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    Ronny Bennett Sr. Apr 24, 2010

    Then why did you reject the answer?

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