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Wipers will not operate relay clicks and the switch is good but nothing after the relay 2 shops say relay and one shop says wiper motor?

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Before buying wiper motor, check if there is power going to the motor, do not start the engine, just put ignition on, put wiper switch on max.speed. If you cannot hear the motor, that means there is no power on it so check wires, if wires ok than replace the motor, but if you can hear the motor running than it might be the wiper link that needs replacement. Even if you cannot hear the motor and link is ok, try to test the motor once you have it out. It might even the switch that is faulty.

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WHERE IS THE WIPER/WASHER FUSE LOCATED ON 2007 PONTIAC TORRENT


In the under hood fuse box , should have diagram inside the lid . Front wiper's or rear ? Front fuse # 36 - 25 amp. Plus Two relay's PCB hi and Wiper PCB relay . Wouldn't think this being fuse problem . Wiper switch , motor etc... The wiper's are control by a computer . BCM - body control module .

The windshield wiper/washer system consists of front and rear wipers. The front and rear wipers are operative when the vehicle is in accessory or run. The front wipers have 4 different modes: Mist, Intermittent, Low, and High. When the front wipers are in the intermittent mode, there are 5 delay modes to chose from, commanded by the windshield wiper washer switch through the body control module (BCM). The rear wipers has an only one mode.

If the fuse is bad , could have a short to ground or wiper motor pulling to much current (amps) . Fuse's don't just blow for no reason ! Could also have DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes stored in the BCM .
DTC B3715
DTC B3873
DTC B3875
DTC B3922

DTC B3715 02: Front Wiper Relay Drive Circuit Short to Ground
The body control module (BCM) controls the wiper motor based on input from the windshield wiper washer switch. The BCM monitors the wiper washer switch through three separate signal circuits and a ground circuit. The windshield wiper switch high signal circuit is used to determine high speed wiper operation, the windshield wiper switch low signal is used to determine low speed, intermittent, and mist operation through the use of a resistor ladder, and windshield washer switch signal circuit is used to determine washer operation.
The BCM controls the windshield wiper motor through two output controls, controlling two different PCB relays which control the desired wiper speed, high or low.
DTC B3922 00: Front Wiper Function Select Circuit

The PCB relay's are non- servicable , replace fuse box . Soldered in Your best bet mit be to take it to a qualified repair shop .

Feb 20, 2017 | Pontiac Cars & Trucks

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I have a 2009 gmc sierra, where is the wiper relay location.


The PCB wiper relays are soldered directly to circuit board inside the under hood fuse box.
The windshield wiper/washer switch signal circuits are inputs to the body control module (BCM) and the BCM controls wiper motor low speed operation, washer pump and high speed operation. The windshield wiper/washer switch is provided a low reference from the BCM and each of the switch signal circuits is supplied 12 volts through a resistor and monitored within the BCM. During LOW or INTERMITTENT operation the wiper switch low signal circuit is closed to the low reference circuit through a series of resistors within the switch assembly and the signal circuit voltage monitored by the BCM will depend on the switch contact location to the resistor assembly. During HIGH or WASH operation the high and wash switch signal circuits are closed directly to the low reference circuit within the switch assembly and nearly all the signal circuit voltage will be dropped across the BCM resistors. The BCM controls the wiper motor through the WIPER CONTROL PCB Relay and the WIPER SPEED PCB Relay. During any wiper motor function that uses low speed the BCM supplies the voltage to energize the WIPER CONTROL PCB Relay and battery voltage will be supplied from the WIPER CONTROL PCB Relay through the de-energized WIPER SPEED PCB Relay to the wiper motor low speed control circuit. During high speed wiper motor operation the WIPER CONTROL PCB Relay is energized as in low speed and the BCM provides a ground to energize the WIPER SPEED PCB Relay and the battery voltage is supplied to the wiper motor high speed control circuit. Wiper motor park operation is controlled by the BCM using an input from the park switch within the wiper motor assembly. The BCM supplies the park switch signal circuit 12 volts through a resistor then monitors the circuit. Whenever the wiper motor is out of the park position the park switch signal circuit is closed to ground and nearly all the signal circuit voltage will be dropped across the BCM resistor. When the wiper switch is turned to the OFF position while the wiper motor is somewhere in mid-cycle, the BCM will continue to operate the motor until the wipers reach the park position. If the ignition is turned OFF while the wipers are in mid-cycle, the wipers will stop immediately where they are and the BCM will park the wipers the next time the ignition is cycled ON.

DTC B3715 02: Front Wiper Relay Drive Circuit Short to Ground
DTC B3875 00: Wiper High Speed Relay Circuit
DTC B3922 00: Front Wiper Function Select Circuit
Have it checked for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes .

The body control module (BCM) controls the wiper motor based on input from the windshield wiper washer switch. The BCM monitors the wiper washer switch through three separate signal circuits and a ground circuit. The windshield wiper switch high signal circuit is used to determine high speed wiper operation, the windshield wiper switch low signal is used to determine low speed, intermittent, and mist operation through the use of a resistor ladder, and windshield washer switch signal circuit is used to determine washer operation.
The BCM controls the windshield wiper motor through two output controls, controlling two relays which determine the desired wiper speed, high or low.
Your best bet , take your vehicle to a qualified repair shop or dealer . Hooking up a factory scan tool to see what the wiper switch inputs to the BCM are correct and outputs to relays are good .

Feb 11, 2017 | GMC Cars & Trucks

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99 f350 super duty, wipers would only come on sometimes. I changed wiper motor now they still don't work


The generic electronic module (GEM) responds to the windshield wiper control commands by interpreting inputs from the steering column multi-function switch. The speed dependent wipers will compensate for the extra moisture that accumulates on the windshield at higher speeds, except when the multi-function switch is in the INT 1 position. At higher speeds, the speed dependent feature shortens the delay between wipes when using the variable interval wipers. Delays will automatically adjust at speeds between 16 and 105 km/h (10 and 65 mph).
Testing should be done before replacing any parts . And if you don't know about (GEM) Control module controlled system's your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop . The first place to start trouble shooting these systems is with a scan tool that can read GEM module codes .

B1840 Wiper Front Power Circuit Failure GEM GO to Pinpoint Test B . B1476 Wiper High Speed Circuit Motor Failure GEM GO to Pinpoint Test B . B1473 Wiper Low Speed Circuit Motor Failure GEM GO to Pinpoint Test B .
B1431 Wiper Brake/Run Relay Circuit Failure GEM GO to Pinpoint Test B . B1432 Wiper Brake/Run Relay Circuit Short to Battery GEM GO to Pinpoint Test B . B1434 Wiper Hi/Low Speed Relay Coil Circuit Failure GEM GO to Pinpoint Test D . B1436 Wiper Hi/Low Speed Relay Coil Circuit Short to Battery GEM GO to Pinpoint Test D . B1438 Wiper Mode Select Switch Circuit Failure GEM GO to Pinpoint Test B . B1441 Wiper Mode Select Switch Circuit Short to Ground GEM GO to Pinpoint Test C . B1446 Wiper Park Sense Circuit Failure GEM GO to Pinpoint Test B . B1450 Wiper Wash/Delay Switch Circuit Failure GEM GO to Pinpoint Test E . B1453 Wiper Wash/Delay Switch Circuit Short to Ground GEM GO to Pinpoint Test C . B1458 Wiper Washer Pump Motor Relay Circuit Failure GEM GO to Pinpoint Test F . B1460 Wiper Washer Pump Motor Relay Coil Circuit Short to Battery GEM GO to Pinpoint Test F .
If no codes are stored then you go here .
  • The Wipers Are Inoperative
  • Fuse(s).
  • Circuitry.
  • GEM.
  • Multi-function switch (13K359) (wiper/washer switch).
  • Windshield wiper run/park relay.
  • Windshield wiper HI/LO relay.
  • Windshield wiper motor (17508).
  • GO to Pinpoint Test B .

Your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop that knows how to trouble shoot problems like this . This is no easy diagnose's .

Feb 07, 2017 | Cars & Trucks

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2002 trialblazer rear window wiper inop. changed switch and motor. no power to motor. cannot find relay nor fuse


There are something's involved that you are not aware of , or familiar with . Electronic control modules .
Rear Wiper/Washer System Controls
• Body control module (BCM)
• Liftgate control module (LGM)
• Rear wiper/washer switch
Do you know what a serial data network is ?
Rear Wiper/Washer System Operation
The rear window wiper/washer switch is an input to the BCM. The requested rear wiper mode is sent to the liftgate control module (LGM) by the BCM as a message on the serial data circuit, and the rear window wiper motor is controlled by the LGM. The switch power circuit to the rear wiper/washer switch is a 12-volt reference supplied by the BCM during ignition on, accessory or RAP power modes. The rear wiper/washer switch is a series of resistors and the switch position is determined by the voltage of the rear wiper/washer switch signal circuit to the BCM. The rear wiper/washer switch has continuity at all times and the BCM expects a rear wiper/washer switch signal voltage in all switch positions including OFF. The rear wiper motor is supplied battery positive voltage and ground. The LGM controls rear wiper motor operation through the rear wiper motor control circuit. The rear wiper motor control circuit is supplied a battery positive reference voltage by the rear wiper motor module and is pulse width modulated to ground by the LGM. The duty cycle of the pulse width modulation determines the rear wiper motor operating mode. The liftglass and liftgate ajar switches are inputs to the LGM and must be in an inactive state in order for rear wiper washer system operation to be enabled. When an ajar switch is active the LGM suspends wiper motor operation directly and sends the ajar switch status messages over the serial data circuit enabling the BCM to suspend washer pump operation. The rear window washer pump is controlled by the BCM through the rear washer relay. Battery positive voltage is supplied to the coil and switch sides of the rear washer relay. When the rear window wash request is active the BCM energizes the relay by grounding the relay coil through the rear washer relay control circuit. When the relay is energized battery positive voltage to the relay switch is supplied to the washer pump control circuit.

Your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop and have it checked for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes .
DTC B1017 or B3970
The rear wiper motor is supplied battery positive voltage and ground. The liftgate control module controls rear wiper motor operation through the rear wiper motor control circuit. The rear wiper motor control circuit is supplied a battery positive reference voltage by the rear wiper motor module and is pulse width modulated to ground by the liftgate control module. The duty cycle of the pulse width modulation determines the rear wiper motor operating mode.
DTC B3799

2
Turn the ignition ON.
Operate the rear wiper switch through all the switch positions.
Does the rear window wiper operate normally?
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YES - Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems
NO - Go to Step 3
3
Install a scan tool.
Display the liftgate control module data list.
Observe the following parameters while operating the respective switches. Refer to Scan Tool Data List for typical values.
• Liftgate Ajar Switch
• Liftglass Ajar Switch
Did the scan tool indicate the correct switch positions?
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Go to Step 4
Go to Courtesy Lamps Inoperative in Lighting Systems
4
Observe the requested rear wiper parameter in LGM data list.
Operate the rear wiper switch through all the switch positions.
Does the scan tool indicate the correct requested rear wiper parameter in relation to the switch position?
--
Go to Step 5
Go to Step 6

Feb 06, 2017 | 2002 Chevrolet TrailBlazer

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How do I find out if the wipers on my 2006 H3 Hummeris on a relay?


The Wiper/Washer System consists of the following components:
• Windshield wiper/washer switch
• Body control module (BCM)
• Wiper micro relay
• Wiper 2 relay
• Wiper diode
• Windshield wiper motor
• Windshield washer pump
• Windshield washer nozzles
• Windshield washer solvent container
• Windshield wiper arm and blade assemblies
• Windshield wiper transmission
• WIP/WASH 10A fuse
• WIPER 25A fuse

Wiper/Washer System Description
The body control module (BCM) controls wiper motor low speed operation. The washer pump and high speed operation are controlled directly by the wiper/washer switch. The windshield wiper/washer switch supplies voltage on the signal circuits to the BCM for windshield wiper/washer operation. When WASH, MIST, DELAY, LOW, or HIGH is detected, the BCM energizes the wiper micro relay by suppling voltage to the relay coil. This allows battery voltage from the WIPER fuse to flow through the relay switched input then through the contacts and out the relay switched output to the wiper 2 relay switch contacts. Since the wiper 2 relay switch contacts are normally closed to the low speed circuit of the windshield wiper motor, the motor will operate at low speed.

Low Speed Operation
When the wiper switch is in the Low position, voltage is supplied through an internal resistor to the signal circuit. The body control module (BCM) monitors the windshield wiper switch signal 1 circuit, and energizes the wiper micro relay which will operate the windshield wiper motor. The wiper motor will operate at low speed, since the wiper 2 relay is de-energized. Low speed can also be commanded with a scan tool, by commanding Wiper Relay Cmd. ON and OFF. Refer to Scan Tool Output Controls .
High Speed Operation
In the High position, the windshield wiper/washer switch supplies voltage to both the wiper micro relay and wiper 2 relay coils. This energizes both relays and allows battery voltage from the wiper micro relay switched output to the switched input of the wiper 2 relay through its contacts and out the switched output of the wiper 2 relay to the high speed circuit of the windshield wiper motor. The windshield wiper motor will operate at high speed. During high speed wiper motor operation the wiper switch signal circuit is at the low speed signal voltage, and the body control module (BCM) supplies redundant voltage to the wiper relay via the wiper diode.

This info is out of hummer factory service manual !

Dec 10, 2016 | 2006 Hummer H3

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I have a 2008 GMC Acadia. The wipers stopped working the other day and the high beams won't turn on either. I checked the fuses under the hood and also tried swapping the relay with another one.


Both headlamps an wipers are controlled by the BCM - body control module ! There is a lot involved in turning on the headlamps an wipers , here is GM factory service repair manual description .
Low Speed Operation
When the wiper switch is in the low speed position, ground is applied through a resistor internal to the switch and the wiper switch low signal circuit to the body control module (BCM). In response to this signal, the BCM energizes the WPR relay by applying battery voltage through the wiper relay control circuit to the coil side of the relay. This allows battery positive voltage from the WPR fuse to flow through the switch input side of the WPR relay and out to the switch input side of the WPR HI relay. Since the wiper high relay is de-energized and its switch contacts are normally closed to the low speed control circuit of the windshield wiper motor, the motor will operate at low speed.
Wiper motor low speed operation and the WPR relay can also be commanded ON/OFF by using a scan tool. Refer to Control Module References.
There could be DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes stored in the BCM .
DTC B3715 DTC B3873 DTC B3875 DTC B3922
Your best option would be to have it checked out by a qualified repair shop . Hooking up a diagnostic scan tool to check inputs an outputs of the BCM is the best way to find the problem . Could be the switches (no input to BCM) The BCM could be at fault . There are relays involved in both the headlamps an wipers , couldn't be three relays bad at the same time .

Jul 19, 2016 | GMC Cars & Trucks

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I'm driving in rain, wipers working good, all of a sudden they quit! I drive for 15 min, check again, they work for a while, then quit again...what in the problem?


If your not familiar with automotive electronics an module control of components , I suggest you take it to the dealer . They have the tools to diagnose this type problem !
The Wiper/Washer System consists of the following components:
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Windshield wiper/washer switch


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Body control module (BCM)


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Wiper PCB relay


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Wiper high PCB relay


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Windshield wiper motor


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Windshield washer fluid pump


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Windshield washer fluid level switch


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WPR fuse 25 A


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WSW fuse 10 A


Low Speed Operation
When the wiper switch is in the low speed position, ground is applied through the switch internal resistor and the wiper switch low signal circuit to the body control module (BCM). In response to this signal, the BCM energizes the WIPER PCB relay by applying battery voltage through the wiper relay control circuit to the coil side of the relay. This allows battery positive voltage from the WPR fuse to flow through the switch input side of the WIPER PCB relay and out to the switch input side of the WIPER HIGH PCB relay. Since the wiper high relay is de-energized and its switch contacts are normally closed to the low speed control circuit of the windshield wiper motor, the motor will operate at low speed.
High Speed Operation When the wiper switch is in the high speed position, ground is applied through the windshield wiper switch high signal circuit to the body control module (BCM) indicating the wiper high speed request. In response to this signal, the BCM then energizes the wiper PCB relay, as stated above, and the wiper high PCB relay by applying ground through the control circuit to the coil side of the relay. With the wiper high relay energized and its switch contacts closed to the high speed control circuit of the wiper motor, the motor will operate at high speed.
Wiper motor high speed operation and the wiper high speed PCB relay can also be commanded ON/OFF by using a scan tool. Refer to Control Module References.
DTC B3715 02: Front Wiper Relay Drive Circuit Short to Ground
DTC B3875 00: Wiper High Speed Relay Circuit
DTC B3922 00: Front Wiper Function Select Circuit
You could Have a switch problem , BCM problem ,PCB relay problem , the pcb relays are non serviceable an the whole under hood fuse box would need to be replaced . Malfunctioning motor bad ground some where etc.....

Dec 20, 2015 | 2008 Chevrolet Impala

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Anybody have any idea about my wipers.


If your wipers are not working it could be 3 things causing your problem (1)wiper relay (2)wiper switch and (3)faulty wiper motor.First check the relay by turning on the wipers and listen for the relay to click,if it clicks then its good.Next check the voltage at the motor while turning the switch on.So if you have power to the motor and it wil not turn on then the motor is bad.Make sure to check the connection on the wiper motor for a bad connection or broken wire.

Jan 31, 2012 | 1999 Honda Accord

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My wipers comes on will in off postion does one cycle every 2min.


I t maybe your wiper motor I had to replace two in 16 years ,it would come on by it self Not sure if this is what caused it but it did stop when I replace the motor??

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