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Anonymous Posted on Mar 17, 2010

I have a 1983 Toyota pickup. I just replaced the alternator, and I am pretty sure I connected the WHT, GRN, YEL, WHT/BLK wires into the correct plugs on the back of the Alternator. When I go to turn the key nothing happens. I checked the battery and the connections, both are good. The guy who owed the truck before me spliced another wire from the yellow wire that runs from the alternator to the fuse panel in the cab. So I ran a test. I spliced another wire directly from that yellow wire to the battery. All the gauge indicator lights came on without turning the key on (weird). If I turn the key now the motor will crank, but if I turn the key completely off to the lock position the gauge indicator lights stay on (like the ignition is still hot), so does the heater fan. I have already replaced the ignition switch at the steering column so that can?t be it. What could be wrong now? Could I have blown one of the fusible links? If so where can I find them and what do they look like? Why would he have spiced a wire directly to the fuse box from that yellow wire (All three wires are wire nutted together), and why would running another wire from both to the battery turn the ignition on? PLEASE HELP :(

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  • Anonymous Mar 17, 2010

    Thank you, very much. You said the yellow wire is the ignition. I thought it might be a fusible link due to the fact the only time I get power to the ignition is when I add a wire that runs directly from the yellow wire to the battery. I spliced it in were the other guy had a wire nut for the jerry rigged splice from the yellow wire to the fuse box. (so there are three wire spiced there for it to work.)...any thoughts? When I get home in a couple hours I will take some photos and post them so it makes a little more since.

  • Anonymous Mar 17, 2010



    The green connector and the yellow wire are normal, The yellow wire runs to the back of the alternator but as you can see this guy spliced the red wire and ran it to the fuse panel. If I add another wire to this nut and run it to the battery, the ignition is hot and always on. I can then crank the motor.

    ________________________________



    You can see the larger red wire with the electrical tape. This is were it runs into the fuse panel, and the connection to the fuse panel is good. #9 to be exact, and there is a 10amp fuse in it.

    ________________________________



    This is a picture of the old alternator. There is a F, E and N. I need to also make sure (and i think i did it right but im not sure) that I connected the Yellow, Green and BLK/WHT wires to the correct corresponding letters.

    I Truly appreciate all your help. I am anxiously awaiting your response. Thanks Again!


  • Anonymous Mar 18, 2010

    Thank you, I was able to get the ignition fixed. Works great, but now I have another problem. I do not think the new alternator is charging. I had the truck running and I pulled the positive side of the batter off and the truck died. I think it might be because I hooked the Green, Yellow, WHT/BLK wires to the wrong corresponding letter on the back of the alternator. What color goes to what letter on the green plug? I have a F, E and a N.




  • Anonymous Mar 18, 2010

    Thank you very much.

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Get the schematic for your car from a toyota dealer; they can email or, they will print it out for you at the dealer part desk for free.
the usual wiring is: "Bat"=thick wire with eye connector to alternator stud (a nut holds it on) Grn=ground, yel=ignition, blk/wht=gauge
you have the ignition wire in the wrong place, no ground and, are back-feeding the gauge with ignition. Your splice created a circuit by creating a chasis ground; that why it seemed weird (gauges on)
a fusible link is a smaller piece of insulated wire in the middle of a larger wire; it is located at the battery or, the starter in most cars.
It does not sound like you have damaged one as you still have power at the wire ends. The schematic will show you where the guage wire should correctly go on the fusebox as; the previous owner jerry-rigged it.
Hope this helps; let me know; JG

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    Jim Goldsmith Mar 17, 2010

    It should be the yellow wire; my schematic says so but, when people start just jerry-rigging: who knows? Remove all "added" wire; I'll wait for your pics.

    JG

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    Jim Goldsmith Mar 18, 2010

    What a mess!

    Ok the previous owner powered the alternator using an auxuilary area of the fuse box; inserting an inline fuse because he probably burned out the fuse block area of your fuse box where the wire should have gone.



    The blk/grn/yel wires are correct these feed the alternator field coil, rotor and, diode pack. Find your ignition + (positive) coil wire and, power it; it must be hot only in run; find your start wire; it goes to the key start position on your ignition switch through the fuse box from the battery feed to the fuse box ; make sure it is powered only when the key is in start next, insure that the starter solenoid relay "clicks" conecting the battery power to the starter when you turn the key to start position. it works like this: turn key to start: wire to starter solenoid hot: starter cranks; key returns to run; positive side of coil hot, negative side of coil (ground) shows continiuity (good from coil negative side to frame of car or, engine ground) engine running.



    your alternator feeds Battery as it is turned by the engine fan belt ( AC made into DC volts by: the diode pack inside of the alternator)

  • Jim Goldsmith
    Jim Goldsmith Mar 18, 2010

    My schematic uses: white= bat, yellow = "L" & black/yellow = ignition so;

    Go to your local autoparts store and, they can tell you where the wires go as; my schematics are too new. (they only go back to 1992)

    glad I could help

    JG

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