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I have a 1999 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE, 3.3 ltr Engine, All Systems turn on when key is turned on, but engine won't turn over, Check all relays and are good, new that is proven good, Brown wire to staer coil is NOT getting electricity to it, I can hear the starter relay click when the key is turned to the start position, so it doesn't seem to be the Ignition switch, I know there is a ignition coil. Is that between the starter and the starter coil relay, and could that be the problem? Can and how do I test it with A Volt Ohm Meter? Or is ther something else I am over looking?

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  • bulldogpoker Feb 08, 2010

    I had the Haynes Plymouth repair book with all the wiring diagrams, and what the relays and all the electrcial parts should read (omhs and volts) while discharged and charged. All were well within the norms. I used a digital meter so that I could see exactly what the omh and voltage read outs were. For instance with the negative pole in the battery disconnected, the Ignition Coil the B+ to the #1 pole should read less that 1 omh but to 2 & 3 should read 10-15K ohms. And the starter relay disconnected should have an ohm reading of 70-80 ohms between poles 85 & 86, poles 87A-30 should have continuity between them, and no continuity between poles 87-30. So when I asked the question I had already gone through the wiring diagram and tested all the relays and etectrical equipment. The only one I could not get a test on is the brown wore leading down to the solenoid. It is because of the stupid square connector it has on is. However my van has two connectors down there, one square and one that hangs free, an oval one. I have already looked at the two different solenoid/starter and there are two that fit the van and are exactly the same, one with the square connector with the brown wire (which I already know can have problems) and one with the oval connector. Both starter setups are exactly the same, measurements and everything, is there any reason why we couldn't change and use the oval connector, since those seem to give out a whole lot less often. The brown wire with the square connector is a known problem, but I haven't heard whather one could go ahead and use the oval connector with the starter with the oval connector. Both starters are sold for the exact same vehicle, engine, everthing, but I haven't heard from anyone whether or not they can be changed out. Do you know?

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You need a wiring diagram before you start and get out your meter. How did you check out the relays? Remove them,power up the coils and read OHM's across all contacts or use the buzzer on the meter? You missed one The fact the solenoid is good doesn't mean the contacts inside aren't burnt and not applying current to the starter motor. We over look the easy stuff most of the time. Did you do a voltage drop test on the starter while trying to crank? A new solenoid may be all you need.

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