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Check the ohm rating on all plug wires. They average 28,000 ohms per foot. Of course a bad spark plug can be at fault to. These two items will cause your tack to fluctuate or hunt while idling

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2000 Suzuki Esteem 1.8L.. I went to start my motor & turned it off right before started. I heard some kind of backfire. Then I started it and it's been idling high, the surging. Please help!!


scan it yet, a FULL OBD2 scan? why not?if not.
now is the time...


the 1.8L J18 engine, same as the older Sidekick sports used.
same engine , know it I do.
its the precursor to the J20, (j18 is under-stroked, j20 with many of the same parts. inside)
the back fire means explosion sound to rear end of tail pipe?
yes, that is rich raw fuel in the muffler. plus Air.
if there are exhaust cracks and then engine goes rich this can happen( a double failure)
if how ever BACK means, back to the Air cleaner, then that be different reasons, (timing)


engine now starts.?>
engine runs.? has full power, car drives ok.?
JUST?
SURGE,. you never said.

does engine get hot? 180F or more and holds (y/n)
ever get a full tuneup this decade,
most dont so i tell you, bad spark causes, misfire and raw fuel is wasted to the exhaust and sure can go boom.

surging usually means the ISC can not control idle
so it hunts, (a suzuki software engine on all 90s engines)
PCM errors, inside it. (dangerous too)
a modern car, if idle goes too high the ecu commands the ISC closed
and holds it there solid, (safe way , no hunting allowed now)]
so if this car surges, it's , lean engine.

some think flooding is surging.
and this is usually below 800 rpm,
almost stalls, then corrects, seems like a surge.

next time post rpm range of surge.?????

do not drive a surging engine, do not be like Toyota drivers. (over 800 rpm hot)

surge from 400 -800 rpm is class 1 surge.
surge from 800 to say 2000 RPM is class2, and very dangerous to some folks, (key off, get car fixed, tow it)

The ECU controls idle speeds. (hard coded servo controls)

Mar 18, 2016 | Suzuki Cars & Trucks

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What is causing the fast Idle and slowing down


well gee, there are 50 reasons.
did you scan the PCM yet, if not ,why not?
when the idle surges, that means.
NO RPM ranges stated, if super low rpm check EGR.

1: engine lean and ISC dead, or cant handle the huge engine power drop..The PCM can even make this worse!, buy hunting the ISC to find spec, idle and failing... to...
2: or any of 50 other things causing huge engine power drop and PCM can't maintain idle controls.
super lean burn.(bogging)
super rich burn, misfire for 50 reasons.

i cant hear your engine,nor feel it, or see it shake from gross misfiring.
no can i drive it and see/feel power loss,
can I?
asking net bunny's this (blind as bats)
is "OVER THE TOP" no?
so here , ill toss the dice for you
and guess gross misfiring.
ever get a tuneup this decade, if not bingo , no?

and the others...

http://jeepdied.com/Misfire101.html

link even has the 50 cause list, to show the futility of guessing!
we do 1 to 10 tests. and find it.
for sure.

as you can see EFI systems are complex.
gue$$ is not only expensive but can net you 2 problems easy.

Feb 05, 2016 | 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee

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1993 geo tracker idle up and down


HOT ENGINE? (ill guess hot)
idle surges.(hunts) (very simple reasons or very hard to find.
the car has 2 engines. G16A and G16B
they work totally opposite, (8valve and 16v)
the vin number tells you the engine type ,digit 8 is engine code
6= G16B 16v
U= G16A 8v
i have factory book. its in chapter 0 these facts.
the cause of idle surge and hunt are:
1: ISC failures. the ISC can stick partially open and then hunts.
clean it and test it . see videos of how.
2: engine running so bad the ISC can nOT regulate idle speeds.

#2 is caused by up to 50 reasons.
8v , air leaks, cause racing idle and iSC goes nuts.
16v , all air leaks cause lean and if too lean the ISC goes nuts.

by nuts , i mean it hunts or gives up.

the list is endless, but the tests are basic,
i cant help you because no engine stated.

http://www.fixkick.com/IDLE-AIR/idle-index-home.html


ISC = IDLES SPEED CONTROLER (a system not just a PART)

Jul 08, 2014 | 1993 Geo Tracker

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I have a 99 civic 4 door and the engine surges at idle


hot engine or cold, or both???????????????????
surging or hunting idle is complex but for sure the ECU has lost control of idle speed , there are 2 macro reasons, (vast causes)
1: ISC is stuck (in non SAE terms, the idle speed control valve ) is stuck.
2: engine is missing cause the ISC to GO NUTS trying to control
idle and can not.. the 50 reasons, , have list ask.
we do tests to find out if either or both the above are bad.
do you want tests, or guessing>???

Jan 22, 2014 | 1999 Honda Civic

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Idle up down


hunting or surging ilde. name the 2 RPMS, low and high , is it hot or cold engine this issue.? 400rpm or 1000 or 2000 all are diff.causes.
no year, stated. so cant help.
but ill answer in the generic,
1: the ECU (got a carb,? )
the ecu controls idle speed at all times.
if not , there is a problem (you)
A: air leaks in the induction will make motor race at some point the ECU/ISC loses control. and hunts. trying hard to correct it.
b: egr stuck open idle too low, iSC cant correct it,, bad EGR.
c: engine EFI running way too leak starving for fuel so it hunts for 2 reasons < ISC hunting, and lean does that.
lean is gross power loss and opening throttle bogs the engine.
so is double bad. ISC makes it worse,

all this breaks down to 2 reasons.
1: ISC bad. in some way (gummed up. or restricted inside)
2: bad fueling or air leaks. vacuum leaks.

try answers , the hot cold question and the 2 speeds, of the hunt.
lowest rpm and highest of the hunted range of RPM.

Nov 23, 2013 | Honda Civic Cars & Trucks

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1993 Ford Ranger 3.0L V6 starts surging @ 33-34 mph and @ 1200 rpm. Tried to duplicate @ different speeds and rpm combanation but only does it @ these. Changed spark plugs, wires, cap, fuel filter and oil...


Hello:;
This sounds like a fuel problem at the carb. What it's doing is termened hunting a nd can generally be corrected by a simple adjustment of the carb. Engine at idle and neutral set rpms at lowest idle , around 640 rpms. then adjust the a/f ratio screws to balance carb. Screw both screws all the way in, do not force ,or needle and sear damage will occir. Now back each out to 1.5 turns That is your start point Adjust one screw in and out slowly until you you feel its best effact on ide whicjh should slightly increase. repeat with other screw, in and out slowly . listening to the engine idle. if idle has increase due to your adjustmebt, repwat process after lowering the idle speed again with the idle screw. When you get to the point the screws no longer affect the idle the engine show sound and run smoothly at idle, make sure you resert the idle to 650rpms for an automatic trans and 650-750 for manual trans. I hoped this helped- good luck.. If it still does it, the carb may nrrd the float checked and st.

May 15, 2009 | 1993 Ford Ranger SuperCab

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2003 Eclipse V6 Hunting at idle after we replaced the Timing belt


on my sons car it was the idle speed control motor it on the throdebody

Apr 06, 2009 | 2003 Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder

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Rough idle / engine surges until power is applied


Sounds like a possible vaccume hose leak?

Feb 07, 2009 | 1997 Chevrolet Astro

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Engine surge


Hi

If this is only once the engine has warmed up then it could be an O2 sensor problem.

If the engine tends to hunt up and down at idle then you could have a dirty idle control valve which needs removing and cleaning out with brake cleaner or intake cleaner.

It could also be a dirty or faulty MAF sensor which will either need removing and cleaning as per the idle control valve, or renewing.

Very best regards

Geordie

Jun 25, 2008 | 1996 Ford Contour

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