Question about 1991 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight Regency

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Keyis dead . wont start in park/neutral yet with key in run position starter can be shorted acrossed and engine will star and run for 2/3 sec. then dies repeatedly. fuel pressure at fuel rail is good . fuses all arew good battery is new and fully charged. is there a way to test the magnetyic chip in key itself and could that be thew culprit? or what else have i not checked? can relays be tested?

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The piece you are referring to is a resistor of a specific value, witch compares to a value hardwired in the engine management computer, yes this can be the culprit, make certain the contacts are clean, use some fine steel wool to clean or an ink eraser is good to, there can also be a fault in the contacts in the key hole, especially is someone tried to steel you wheels inserting incorrect keys can also danage the contacts, do you have a shop manual for your ride ? let me know

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http://www.bbbind.com/free_tsb.html Enter vehicle info. year , make , model and engine size . Under system click on engine ,then under subsystem click on starting . Click the search button ,then click the blue link .
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