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Hi ,is it possible that the rear doors lock actuators stop working at the same time and should be both replaced or there might be other cause rather than the actuators it self?

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See if power reaches the actuators when using the lock/unlock, if it does, the actuators are dead , you can test it by removing the door panel and disconnecting the wires going to the actuator and using a test light or a voltmeter on the wires, (if there is only one wire its the positive terminal)

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    Fig. Removing door lock actuator


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    Fig. Removing door lock motor-Sedan



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Power Door Locks Inoperative (Rear Door(s))
2
Activate the door lock switches to the lock and unlock positions.
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NO - Go to Step 3
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NO - Go to Step 4
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NO - Go to Step 5
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Disconnect the inoperative door lock actuator.
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Activate a door lock switch to lock position.
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NO - Go to Step 25

Some of these steps can be bypassed because you say they worked after replacing the relay .LOCK RELAY ? right .

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With a test lamp connected to a good ground, probe the door lock actuator unlock circuit at the door lock actuator harness connector.
Activate a door lock switch to unlock position.
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NO - Go to Step 26
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Connect a test lamp to battery positive voltage.
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YES - Go to Step 20
NO - Go to Step 22
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Connect a test lamp to a good ground.
Probe the battery positive voltage circuit (high current) cavity in the fuse block.
Does the test lamp illuminate?
YES - Go to Step 11
NO - Go to Step 22

If your not familiar with GM diagnostic flow chart's , they can be confusing .
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