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Internal leak 2002 Jeep GCL v6

Have a 2002 Jeep GCL with v6 and 150,000 miles, coolant is slowingly leaking (over last year). I see no external leaks. Overflow is dry. The performance is fine (18mpg) no smells, only annoying. - help?

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HAVE YOU HAD IT PRESSURE TESTED?4.0L ENGINE?IF SO, REMOVE VALVE COVER..LOOK FOR A REDDISH SLIMY DEPOSITS..IF PRESENT..CYLINDER HEAD MAY BE CRACKED BETWEEN ROCKER ARM PEDESTALS..HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE..NO EXTERNAL LEAKS..NO LEAKS INTO COMBUSTION CHAMBER..OIL LOOKS OK..CHECK THIS AFTER YOU GET PRESSURE TESTED..DON'T FORGET HEATER ARERA AS WELL

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