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Your tranny is going into limp mode,
the computer is not seeing info from the speed sensor,or output sensor,or the input sensor.
if you have the van checked for codes it will tell you which one,none are too expensive

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2001 Chevy S10 4x4 4L60E transmission works perfectly until 50MPH then I lose 3rd and 4th gear, 1st, 2nd and reverse are normal. Never happenend before, been parked since. Fluid is clean. Any ideas?


Are there any DTC's - diagnostic trouble codes ?in the PCM / BCM ? You have third an fourth below 50 mph but above 50 it down shifts to 2nd gear ,is this what your saying or you don't have 3rd or 4th gears at all ? Which engine did yours come with ? 2.2 L or 4.3 L You trans can set several DTC'S an not all will turn on the check engine light .
DTC B2722 (4.3 L) DTC P0218 (2.2 L) DTC P0218 (4.3 L) DTC P0502 (2.2 L) DTC P0502 (4.3 L) DTC P0503 (2.2 L) DTC P0503 (4.3 L) DTC P0705 (2.2 L) DTC P0706 (4.3 L) DTC P0711 (2.2 L) DTC P0711 (4.3 L) DTC P0712 (2.2 L) DTC P0712 (4.3 L) DTC P0713 (2.2 L) DTC P0713 (4.3 L) DTC P0719 (2.2 L) DTC P0719 (4.3 L) DTC P0724 (2.2 L) DTC P0724 (4.3 L) DTC P0740 (2.2 L) DTC P0740 (4.3 L) DTC P0741 (4.3 L) DTC P0742 (2.2 L) DTC P0742 (4.3 L) DTC P0748 (2.2 L) DTC P0748 (4.3 L) DTC P0751 (2.2 L) DTC P0751 (4.3 L) DTC P0752 (4.3 L) DTC P0753 (2.2 L) DTC P0753 (4.3 L) DTC P0756 (2.2 L) DTC P0756 (4.3 L) DTC P0757 (4.3 L) DTC P0758 (2.2 L) DTC P0758 (4.3 L) DTC P0785 (2.2 L) DTC P0785 (4.3 L) DTC P1810 (2.2 L) DTC P1810 (4.3 L) DTC P1860 (2.2 L) DTC P1860 (4.3 L) DTC P1870 (2.2 L) DTC P1870 (4.3 L) DTC P1875 (4.3 L) .
Shift Pattern This category contains the following topics:
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One forward gear only


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Two forward gears only


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Gear missing or slipping


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No upshift or slipping upshift


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No downshifts


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Non-First gear start


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Refer to First Gear Range Only - No Upshift .


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Refer to Third Gear Only .


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Refer to Second/Third Gear Only or First/Fourth Gears Only .


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Refer to Slips in First Gear .


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Refer to Slipping or Harsh 1-2 Shift .


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Refer to No 2-3 Shift or 2-3 Shift Slips, Rough or Hunting .


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Refer to No 3-4 Shift, Slips or Rough 3-4 Shift .


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Refer to No Part Throttle or Delayed Downshifts .


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Refer to Second Gear Start .

Feb 18, 2016 | Cars & Trucks

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My 2005 Pontiac Bonneville GXP will not shift into 4th gear I was to it was a fourth gear band but is that the only problem that will cause itI'notto shift into 4th gear


Which transmission does yours have 4T65-E or 4T80-E ?

4T80-E
No Fourth Gear

Checks

Causes

1-2 Shift Solenoid Valve
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Inoperative
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Debris
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Pinched wires

3-4 Shift Valve Bore Plug

Misassembled

4th Band

Burned, slipping, missing

4th Servo Cover

Cracked

4th Servo Pin

Broken, seized

4th Servo Piston

Damaged

4th Servo Seals

Rolled, cut or damaged
4T65-E
Slipping or No Fourth Gear
Slipping or No Fourth Gear Checks
Cause

DEFINITION: A large engine RPM increase is noted in fourth gear, Drive range, with little or no vehicle forward speed increase. First, second, and third gear operation are normal. Shifts into fourth gear are soft or do not occur. Fourth gear ratio is 0.705:1.

Automatic Transmission Fluid Level
Low fluid level

Transmission Main Line Pressure
Low transmission main line pressure

Oil Filter Assembly
• The oil filter assembly (100) is missing, plugged, or damaged.
• The oil filter seal assembly (101) is missing or is damaged.

Control Valve Body Assembly
• The 3-4 shift valve (362) or the 4-3 manual downshift valve (360) is stuck or binding.
• Debris is found in the passages of the control valve body (301) or of the control valve body spacer plate and gasket assembly (396)

Case Cover Assembly
Distortion or damage occurs at the manual valve (404) or at the case cover (401), causing PRN oil leak.

Driven Sprocket Support Assembly
A plugged third clutch oil passage in the driven sprocket support assembly (609)

Fourth Clutch Assembly
• The clutch plates (500-502) are worn, damaged, or misassembled.
• A missing or not seated fourth clutch spring retaining ring (601)
• A damaged spring assembly (602) or piston (603)
• Worn or damaged fourth clutch piston seals (604, 605)

Third Clutch Sprag Assembly
• The sprag (720) was misassembled or backwards on the inner race (661).
• A damaged third clutch sprag assembly (653, 661, 719-721)

Dec 06, 2015 | Pontiac Cars & Trucks

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P0733,p0734


The two Codes are about the transmission. The gear ratios in third gear and fourth gear are wrong.

It will help if you can resubmit the problem and name the Brand and Model of the vehicle or add the info. I have not seen this set of Codes before, but it may be about the gearshift linkage not showing the correct gear. If this had an internal overhaul, the transmission may have been reassembled with these gears in the wrong place.

If this is an automatic trans with Electric shift solenoids, the wiring connector to the third and fourth gears is switched.

Please rate my info.

Oct 30, 2012 | Cars & Trucks

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Just had ****** fluid changed. Everything was fine for about a week maybe a little longer. Now I am getting the check engine light as well as the hold light flashing. Also when driving it shifts through...


BEST TO CODE SCAN VECHICLE COULD HAVE STUCK SECOND AND THIRD GEAR.OR FAULTY OVER DRIVE SOLENOID.CHECK TRANSMISSION FLUID LEVEL IT COULD BE A LITTLE LOW ON TRANSMISSION FLUID.

Aug 20, 2011 | 2005 Chevrolet Aveo

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1995 jeep cherokee larado wont shift to third or fourth its a 4.0


Check you transmission fluid first. This transmission has gears 1-2 auto 3 and OD 4. If you are in 3rd and 4th and it is not recognizing it, it may be the linkage or you transmission needs to be serviced. This transmission and transfer case in this year jeep if bullet proof. It is a great setup. You shouldn't have this problem unless the service to the transmission has been neglected. Pleas don't forget to rate this solution for me.

Jan 21, 2011 | 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee

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Transmission does not shift in the third and fourth gear


Well could be a couple of different things wrong.
If it is an automatic transmission could be the pressure solenoids in the transmission. or some thing is broken in the gears.
If it is a standard it could be the synchro gears inbetween that let you shift into the next gear.
Needless to say unless you are a transmission mechanic, take it to the transmission professionals and they will tell u if it can be fixed or depending on the hours for labor, or if u really need your car, you can have a rebuilt transmission installed in about 2 days. Rebuilding yours could take up to a week depending on the experience of the mechanic. I have worked on standard transmissions but I wouldnt even try an automatic.
I had a rebuilt automatic put into my chev pickup in under a weekend for 1300 bucks, but I had a shift kit installed as well while I waited lol.
hope it helps
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Jan 06, 2011 | 1995 Chevrolet Monte Carlo

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When i shift into third the gears grind.. why?


sounds like the syncromesh has gone in the gearbox. If you dont want them to grind, you,ll have to double declutch. I f you cant do this, get a new gearbox.

Jun 09, 2009 | 2001 Hyundai Accent

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Cannot get 1991 300 zx (manuel) non-turbo to shift in 1st and third gear


Most likely it is worn synchros. Try changing out the transmission fluid and run Redline MT90 in it instead. The fourth gear synchros were a known weak spot on the Z32 cars, but other gears could also develop trouble. MT90 is known to alleviate a lot of shifting problems related to synchros in the Z, so it's worth a shot.

Sep 16, 2008 | Nissan 300ZX Cars & Trucks

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