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Can't find the fuse or relay that controls the power winods. All four windows inop and no interior lights as well.

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That is becuase there isn't one, they are controlled by the BCM (body control module)

Posted on Nov 16, 2009

  • okcrbrooks Dec 31, 2010

    there is a relay and a fuse. I just got back from the parts store for the same problem. the parts guy found a relay for 10$. now I just have to find out where it goes lol

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2005 f150 4x4 power windows ,interior lights a/c ,radio gauges are not working fuses are ok and already check for voltage and it has but still not working . It has something else in betwen..?......


Checked voltage where ?
The instrument control module (ICM) controls power to the power window system by activating or deactivating the delayed accessory relay.
Symptom Chart Condition Possible Sources Action
  • All power windows are inoperative
  • Fuse(s).
  • Circuitry.
  • Instrument cluster module (ICM).
  • Accessory delay relay.
  • Driver window control switch.
  • Go To Pinpoint Test A .
Vehicles equipped with remote keyless entry (RKE) have an illuminated entry feature, which enables the instrument cluster module (ICM) to illuminate the interior lamps (and if equipped, the puddle lamps in the exterior mirrors) when an unlock signal is received from the vehicle security module through the UBP network, or when any of the doors are opened. The ICM controls the interior lamps illuminated entry feature by activating the battery saver relay. When active, the illuminated entry feature will be canceled when any of the following conditions are met:
Instrument Cluster Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Index DTC Description Source Action B1342 ECU is Defective Instrument Cluster Module REFER to Section 413-01 . B2499 Courtesy Lamp Output Failure Instrument Cluster Module Go To Pinpoint Test A . B2659 Courtesy Switch Fault Instrument Cluster Module Go To Pinpoint Test C . - All Other DTCs Instrument Cluster Module REFER to Section 419-10 . Do you have a professional grade scan tool ? If not your best bet would be to take your vehicle to a qualified repair shop .

Oct 23, 2016 | 2005 Ford F-150

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Y need book for fuse box


Fuses are listed here
* = maxi fuse
1*=50A I/P fuse panel
2*=40A blower motor relay
3*= 50A 4 wheel ABS module
4*=20a Main light switch-Instrument cluster
5*=50A Ignition switch, starter relay
6*=20A Transfer case relay
7*= NOT USED
8*=20A Auto Ride Control Switch/on off switch
9*=40A Auto Ride Control relay
10*=30A PCM power relay
mini fuses
1=10A A/C relay
2=20A Aux power point
3= not used
4=15A Fog lamps-Daytime lamps
5=10A Air Bag diagnostic monitor
6=10A Powertrain Control Module (PCM)
7=30A 4WABS module
8=30A PCM relay
9=20A Fuel Pump relay and RAP module
10= 15A Horn relay
11=15A Park Lamp relay-Main Light Switch
12=30A Main light switch--Multi Function switch
13=15A Heated O2 sensors, EGR Vacuum Regulator, EVR solenoid,Camshaft position (CMP) Sensor,
Cannister Vent Solenoid, A4LD Auto Transmission
14=30A Generator-Voltage regulator
Interior fuse panel (mini fuses)
1=7.5A Power mirror switch
2=7.5A Blower motor relay,PAD module,Air Bag diagnostic monitor
3=7.5A Trailer tow connector
4=10A Left headlamp
5=10A Data link connector (DLC)
6=7.5A Air bag diagnostic monitor, Blower motor relay, Passive deactivation Module (PAD)
7=7.5A Trailer Tow connector
8=10A Right headlamp, Daytime running lamps (DRL) module, Foglight relay
9=7.5A Stop Lamp switch
10= 7.5A Speed control-amplifier assembly,Brake pressure switch, Generic electronoc Module (GEM)
Shift lock actuator, Blend door actuator, Main light switch, RABS resistor, A/C heater assembly
Flasher
11= 7.5A Instrument cluster, Main light switch, RABS resistor
12= 10A Power window relay, Washer pump relay
13= 20A Stop lamp switch, Brake pressure switch
14= 20A Rear Anti Lock Brake system (RABS) module
**10A 4WABS module**
15=7.5A Instrument cluster
16= 30A Windshield wiper Motor, Wiper Hi-lo relay, wiper run/park relay
17=7.5A Cig lighter
18=15A Drivers unlock relay-All unlock relay
19=25A PCM power diode
20=7.5A RAP module GEM module, Radio
21=15A Flasher (hazard)
22=20A Aux power socket
23=15A Turn signals
24===not used
25= 7.5A GEM module, Instrument cluster
26= 10A Battery saver relay, Electronic Shift relay, Interior lamp relay
Power window relay,Electronic shift control module, transmission control
27=15A Switch,DRL, Backup lamp switch, DTR sensor,Instrument illumination dimming control module
Dome/map lamp, GEM,electronic shift,Interior lights,Glove box lamp and switch
28=7.5A GEM module-Radio
29= 15A Radio
30=15A Park lamps, trailer Tow relay
31===not used
32=10A rear blower
33=15A Headlamps, DRL module, Instrument cluster
34=7.5A Rear integrated control panel, CD
35=10A RABS test connector
36=7.5A CD, rear integrated control panel, memory seat,

i copied this off another post hope this helps

Oct 09, 2016 | 2003 Ford Explorer

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Which Relay/Fuse controls the power windows?


Did you check for battery voltage at the switch , with a volt meter before you replaced the main driver door switch ? Maybe you'll want to take this to pro ,instead of just replacing parts !
Symptom Chart Condition Possible Sources Action
  • No communication with the smart junction box (SJB)
  • Circuitry
  • SJB
  • REFER to Section 419-10 .
  • A single power window is inoperative - driver front power window is inoperative/does not operate correctly
  • Power window motor regulator and motor
  • Circuitry
  • Window control switch
  • Smart junction box (SJB)
  • Go To Pinpoint Test A .
  • A single power window is inoperative - passenger front, left rear or right rear
  • Power window motor regulator and motor
  • Circuitry
  • Window control switch
  • Go To Pinpoint Test B .
  • All power windows are inoperative
  • Smart junction box (SJB) fuse 30 (10A)
  • SJB circuit breaker 10 (30A)
  • Circuitry
  • Delayed accessory relay
  • Battery saver relay
  • Driver window control switch
  • SJB
  • Go To
PINPOINT TEST C: ALL POWER WINDOWS ARE INOPERATIVE Test Step Result / Action to Take C1 CHECK FOR CORRECT OPERATION OF THE INTERIOR LIGHTS
  • Turn on the interior lights.
  • Do the interior lights operate normally?
Yes
GO to C2 .

No
To continue diagnosis, REFER to Section 417-02 . C2 CHECK CIRCUIT 400 (LB/BK) FOR VOLTAGE TO THE DRIVER WINDOW CONTROL SWITCH
  • Disconnect: Driver Window Control Switch C504b.
  • Key in ON position.
  • Measure the voltage between the driver window control switch C504b pin 4, circuit 400 (LB/BK), harness side and ground.
    >
  • Is the voltage greater than 10 volts?
Yes
GO to C4 .

No
GO to C3 . C3 CHECK CIRCUIT 400 (LB/BK) FOR AN OPEN OR SHORT TO GROUND
  • Key in OFF position.
  • Disconnect: SJB C2280c.
  • Measure the resistance between the driver window control switch C504b pin 4, circuit 400 (LB/BK), harness side and the SJB C2280c pin 17, circuit 400 (LB/BK), harness side; and between the driver window control switch C504b pin 4, circuit 400 (LB/BK), harness side and ground.
    >
  • Is the resistance less than 5 ohms between the driver window control switch and the SJB; and greater than 10,000 ohms between the driver window control switch and ground?
Yes
Go To Pinpoint Test H

No
REPAIR the circuit. TEST the system for normal operation.

Mar 24, 2015 | 2004 Mercury Sable

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Interior lights not working


Sounds like you have a bad fuse, and or maybe a bad relay in your dash panels. Start by looking up the fuses that affect your sunroof, then work out to the other issues. On my Ford, there is a bad relay that affects my power windows, my radio, and my interior lights. Sometimes more than one fuse is related to a system, so check all the fuses before trying relays.

Nov 13, 2013 | Hyundai XG350 Cars & Trucks

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99 corolla passenger window wont roll up


Turn the ignition on but don't start the engine. Operate the windows from the master control switch. If none of the windows work, check the main fuse or breaker for the whole power window circuit. If only one of the windows is inoperative, go to Step 3.

  • 2 Check the main circuit relay using a test light. If voltage is coming out of the relay, there is an open or short at the wire feeding power to the other switches. If no voltage is coming out of the relay, use the test light to make sure voltage is reaching the relay. If voltage is reaching the relay, replace it. If there is no voltage reaching the relay, there is an open or short at the wire between the relay and the main fuse.
  • 3 Check the circuit fuse or breaker at the inoperative window. If the fuse or breaker is okay, go to the next step. If you can hear a humming sound as you press the switch but the window does not operate, either the motor is bad or its gearbox may have broken teeth. Go to Step 7.
  • 4 Turn the ignition on but don't start the engine. Using a multimeter, check the master control lockout switch for continuity. If there is no continuity, replace the lockout switch. With some vehicle models, problems at the lockout switch can cause both rear windows to fail.
  • 5 Try the switch at the inoperative window and check for continuity using a voltmeter. If there is no continuity, replace the switch.
  • 6 Check for voltage at the switch using a test light. If voltage is not reaching the switch, there is an open or short between the incoming wire and the fuse or breaker for that circuit power window.
  • 7 Take off the trim panel from the inoperative window. Check for voltage at the motor with a test light while pressing the switch. If there is no voltage, there is a short or open at the wire between the switch and the motor. If the circuit is equipped with a relay, test for voltage reaching and coming out the relay. Make sure the relay is working properly. If voltage is reaching the motor, go to the next step.
  • 8 Detach the window from the regulator and inspect the regulator mechanism by moving the window up and down by hand. Make sure nothing restrains the mechanism. Also, inspect the motor gearbox. Replace any parts as necessary.
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    Abs fuse


    Fuses are listed here

    * = maxi fuse

    1*=50A I/P fuse panel
    2*=40A blower motor relay
    3*= 50A 4 wheel ABS module
    4*=20a Main light switch-Instrument cluster
    5*=50A Ignition switch, starter relay

    6*=20A Transfer case relay
    7*= NOT USED
    8*=20A Auto Ride Control Switch/on off switch
    9*=40A Auto Ride Control relay
    10*=30A PCM power relay

    mini fuses
    1=10A A/C relay
    2=20A Aux power point
    3= not used
    4=15A Fog lamps-Daytime lamps
    5=10A Air Bag diagnostic monitor
    6=10A Powertrain Control Module (PCM)
    7=30A 4WABS module
    8=30A PCM relay
    9=20A Fuel Pump2.gif relay and RAP module
    10= 15A Horn relay
    11=15A Park Lamp relay-Main Light Switch
    12=30A Main light switch--Multi Function switch
    13=15A Heated O2 sensors, EGR Vacuum Regulator, EVR solenoid,Camshaft position (CMP) Sensor,
    Cannister Vent Solenoid, A4LD Auto Transmission
    14=30A Generator-Voltage regulator


    Interior fuse panel (mini fuses)

    1=7.5A Power mirror switch
    2=7.5A Blower motor relay,PAD module,Air Bag diagnostic monitor
    3=7.5A Trailer tow connector
    4=10A Left headlamp
    5=10A Data link connector (DLC)
    6=7.5A Air bag diagnostic monitor, Blower motor relay, Passive deactivation Module (PAD)
    7=7.5A Trailer Tow connector
    8=10A Right headlamp, Daytime running lamps (DRL) module, Foglight relay
    9=7.5A Stop Lamp switch
    10= 7.5A Speed control-amplifier assembly,Brake pressure switch, Generic electronoc Module (GEM)
    Shift lock actuator, Blend door actuator, Main light switch, RABS resistor, A/C heater assembly
    Flasher
    11= 7.5A Instrument cluster, Main light switch, RABS resistor
    12= 10A Power window relay, Washer pump relay
    13= 20A Stop lamp switch, Brake pressure switch
    14= 20A Rear Anti Lock Brake system (RABS) module
    **10A 4WABS module**

    15=7.5A Instrument cluster
    16= 30A Windshield wiper Motor, Wiper Hi-lo relay, wiper run/park relay
    17=7.5A Cig lighter
    18=15A Drivers unlock relay-All unlock relay
    19=25A PCM power diode
    20=7.5A RAP module GEM module, Radio
    21=15A Flasher (hazard)
    22=20A Aux power socket
    23=15A Turn signals
    24===not used
    25= 7.5A GEM module, Instrument cluster
    26= 10A Battery saver relay, Electronic Shift relay, Interior lamp relay
    Power window relay,Electronic shift control module, transmission control
    27=15A Switch,DRL, Backup lamp switch, DTR sensor,Instrument illumination dimming control module
    Dome/map lamp, GEM,electronic shift,Interior lights,Glove box lamp and switch
    28=7.5A GEM module-Radio
    29= 15A Radio
    30=15A Park lamps, trailer Tow relay
    31===not used
    32=10A rear blower
    33=15A Headlamps, DRL module, Instrument cluster
    34=7.5A Rear integrated control panel, CD
    35=10A RABS test connector
    36=7.5A CD, rear integrated control panel, memory seat, Message center Attached images fuse%20box001.jpg?imgmax=800 __________________

    Oct 29, 2009 | 2003 Ford Explorer

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    Cigarette lighter fuse


    Hi,

    Here is the fuse relay diagram:

    MKIV FUSE LIST
    1. Washer nozzle heaters, glove compartment light, memory seat control module (10A).
    2. Turn signal lights (10A).
    3. Fog light relay, instrument panel light dimmer switch (5A).
    4. License plate light (5A).
    5. Comfort system, cruise control, Climatronic, A/C, heated seat control modules, automatic day/night interior mirror, control module for multi-function steering wheel, control unit in steering wheel (7.5A).
    6. Central locking system (5A).
    7. Back-up lights, speedometer vehicle speed sensor (VSS) (10A).
    8. Open
    9. Anti-lock brake system (ABS) (5A).
    10. Engine control module (ECM): gasoline engine (10A); diesel engine, Model Year 2000 > (5A).
    11. Instrument cluster, shift lock solenoid (5A).
    12. Data Link Connector (DLC) power supply (7.5A).
    13. Brake tail lights (10A).
    14. Interior lights, central locking system (10A).
    15. Instrument cluster, transmission control module (TCM) (5A).
    16. A/C clutch, after-run coolant pump (10A).
    17. Open.
    18. Headlight high beam, right (10A).
    19. Headlight high beam, left (10A).
    20. Headlight low beam, right (15A).
    21. Headlight low beam, left (15A).
    22. Parking lights right, side marker right (5A).
    23. Parking lights left, side marker left (5A).
    24. Windshield and rear window washer pump, windshield wiper motor (20A).
    25. Fresh air blower, Climatronic, A/C (25A).
    26. Rear window defogger (25A).
    27. Motor for rear windshield wiper (15A).
    28. Fuel pump (FP) (15A).
    29. Engine control module (ECM) gasoline engine (15A); diesel engine (10A).
    30. Power sunroof control module (20A).
    31. Transmission control module (TCM) (20A).
    32. Injectors: gasoline engine (10A); diesel engine (15A).
    33. Headlight washer system (20A).
    34. Engine control elements (10A).
    35. 12 V power outlet (in luggage compartment) (30A).
    36. Fog lights (15A).
    37. Terminal (86S) on radio, Instrument cluster (10A).
    38. Central locking system (with power windows), luggage compartment light, remote/fuel tank door, motor to unlock rear lid (15A).
    39. Emergency flashers (15A).
    40. Dual tone horn (20A).
    41. Cigarette lighter (15A).
    42. Radio (25A).
    43. Engine control elements (10A).
    44. Heated seats (15A).
    Fuse arangements in fuse bracket/battery:
    S162. Glow plugs (coolant) (50A).
    S163. Fuel pump (FP) relay/glow plug relay (50A).
    S164. Coolant fan control (FC) control module/coolant fan (40A).
    S176. Relays panel interior (110A).
    S177. Generator (GEN) (90 Amp.) (110A).
    Generator (GEN) (120 Amp.) (150A).
    S178. ABS (hydraulic pump) (30A).
    S179. ABS (30A).
    S180. Coolant fan (30A). Source(s): http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=122606 fame !

    Jul 07, 2009 | 1999 Volkswagen GTI

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    F 450 instrument cluster has no power and is inop need to trace wires to power source


    Interior fuse box fuse no.33(15amp) supplies power in run/acc postion to BK/PK wire pin 19 of cluster.
    Interior fuse box fuse no. 45(10 amp) supplies power in the start or run postion on the RD/YE wire pin 20 of cluster.
    Interior fuse panel fuse no. 41(10amp) supplies power to the battery saver relay on LG/OG wire pin 11.
    Interior fuse panel fuse no. 35(10amp) supplies power to interior lamp relay on BK/LG wire pin 12.
    The last 2 are hot at all times.

    Apr 11, 2009 | 2004 Ford Super Duty F 450

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    Fuse or what


    Your multifunction switch on the steering column controls your exterior lights. The GEM module controls the interior lights and other stuff. If bad, it would not blow fuses. WHich fuse blows?
    Your Ford dealer might be familiar with this issue, so call the service dept and ask them and get a quote. It may be wiring.
    reoprt back.

    • The high beams are inoperative
    • Circuitry.
    • Multifunction switch.
    • Go To Pinpoint Test C .


    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Principles of Operation
    Generic Electronic Module (GEM) The generic electronic module (GEM) receives inputs from the following:
    • door ajar switches
    • liftgate ajar switch (wagon)
    • liftgate glass switch (wagon)
    • headlamp switch
    • keyless entry keypad switches
    • the powertrain control module (PCM) (vehicle speed signal)
    • ignition switch
    • remote keyless entry transmitter
    The GEM uses these inputs to control the output to the battery saver relay and interior lamp relay. Both relays are integral to the central junction box (CJB) and cannot be accessed directly.
    Interior Lighting Systems The GEM grounds the battery saver relay and interior lamp relay coils when any door ajar switch or the headlamp switch is closed. The interior lamp relay then supplies power to the interior lamp circuit. Vehicle speed must be less than 15 kph (9 mph) for the GEM to ground the interior lamp relay. The interior lamps will remain illuminated for a period of up to 25 seconds after all doors are closed or until the ignition is switched from the OFF position, or the GEM receives a vehicle speed signal. Actuating the interior lights from the headlamp switch will operate at any time.
    Illuminated Entry Illuminated entry is activated when a keyless entry keypad switch provides ground on the GEM input or when the GEM receives an unlock signal from the remote keyless entry key fob. The GEM then provides ground to the battery saver and interior lamp relay coils. Illuminated entry is deactivated when the GEM receives a lock signal from the remote keyless entry key fob or if the GEM receives ground inputs from the keyless entry keypad switch lock code. Illuminated entry will also be deactivated when the GEM receives input voltage from the ignition switch.
    Battery Saver The battery saver is activated when the GEM is not receiving voltage input from the ignition switch (off position). The GEM will then provide ground to the battery saver relay coil for a maximum of 30 minutes depending on the state of the interior lamp switch inputs to the GEM. The energized battery saver relay switches voltage to the demand lamp circuit and the interior lamp relay coil. After time-out, the GEM removes ground to the battery saver relay disabling the demand lamp circuit.
    Puddle Lamps The puddle lamp relay operates reverse from the battery saver relay and the interior lamp relay. The puddle lamp relay coil receives voltage when the ignition switch is in the START or RUN position, which disables the circuit to the puddle lamps.
    Inspection and Verification
    1. Verify the customer concern by operating the system.
    1. Visually inspect for obvious signs of mechanical and electrical damage.


    Visual Inspection Chart Electrical
    • Battery junction box (BJB) fuse 101 (60A)
    • Central junction box (CJB) fuse 226 (10A)
    • Bulb(s)
    • Central junction box (CJB)
    • Generic electronic module (GEM)
    • Connectors
    • Circuitry



    Feb 20, 2009 | 2003 Ford Taurus

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