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Air conditioning repair including all new parts in July 2009. ( $ 2400.00) There is an intermittant, no predictable pattern, of the sound of rushing air under the dash some what like air rushing out of a valve stem. Last for just 3 or 4 seconds. Repair shop says it is the sound of the expansion valve and is nothing to be concerned about. I can't believe the explanation. I've never owned a car that made such a sound and they have all been air conditioned. What is happening to make this sound. Will it lead to further repairs?

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  • porterjamesd Nov 16, 2009

    sound is nothing like a door opening, more like it a big man exhaled quickly...whhooossssshhhheeee.
    I'm more concerned with possible damage to the unit (something faulty?) than object to the noise

  • porterjamesd Nov 16, 2009

    Not Honda Dealer repair, but shop with good references that limits repairs to Toyota, Honda Lexus etc.

    Problem is........the noise does not present itself with any pattern or under any certain condition. Sooooo, understandably the repair man says something like" well if I can't hear it or see it, I can't be expected to fix it. Again, my concern is if the "conditon" is apt to demand expensive repairs or if the noise should be just treated as a nuisance?

  • porterjamesd Nov 16, 2009

    ..........interesting, but helpful? Time will tell!!
    Sounds plausible.



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For $2400 I wouldn't want the sound under my dash. They probably had to pull the dash to put the evaporator in. They are probably speculating about the noise. It may be a vacuum actuated door that they had to take out to make the repair. You could have a bad actuator or a vacuum leak. And perhaps it is the expansion valve, in that case they should change it to make you happy. $2400??? that is high, and for a premium price, you deserve ultimate satisfaction. Good Luck! I hope this is very helpful!

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  • Hal Hallman Nov 16, 2009

    Get a second opinion, let another a/c expert listen to the noise. I have heard the doors make a simular noise when operating sluggishly. But then again, I can't hear it. Did the Honda dealer do the repair?

  • Hal Hallman Nov 16, 2009

    You should be able to eliminate the vacuum leak actuator theory by turning the unit on and swithching the air flow direction, go to the face, the defrost, the floor, the combinations, several times and in different patterns. Let me know.



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