Question about 2003 Mitsubishi Galant
I have asked this question a few times before Can steering while car is stationary in drive cause any sort of damage to a car. I was messing around with my car one day and turned the steering all the way left and all the way right about 15-20 times. The steering wheel felt slightly tight to one side so I thought maybe there might be some air in the power steering pump, and I thought that would help get the air out. But since I did this, the car seems to be running rough. When I let off the accelerator the car does not coast and seems to lose speed rapidly. And just recently it has started to occassionally sputter on acceleration. When I accelerate for the first time I will hear a light thunk near where the cas pedal is but it wont do it again after that. Now the car seems like it takes about 2 seconds to go into gear from park. Could this wheel turning thing damaged a joint which in turn has started damaging my transmission? Could it damage anything which in turn could eventually damage the transmission? Would what I did be consiedered abuse to the vehicle, and void my warranty? Don't people steer stationary all the time, like when parellel parking and getting out of tight spaces? My car is a 2009 CRV. If anyone has any kind of information or advice they could give me, I would greatly appreciate it. I have taken the car to the dealer and they claim nothing is wrong but I think they are just ignoring these problems cause they don't want to fix it under warrantly These problems have greatly frustrated me, and I am afraid I did something to mess up my brand new car. If anyone has any advice or input I would greatly appreciate it.
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You have not done anything to contribute to any of the symptoms you have described. :-)
No - turning your steering is perfectly normal.
There appears to be two issues here:
1) Your engine operation/fuel/emmission issues
2) Your transmission issues
The engine issues can be rectified fairly easily, but the transmission issue you've described (2sec delay) could be something more costly.
Your onboard vehicle diagnostics will have stored the appropriate fault codes for both engine & transmission, so have your local Mitsubishi dealership scan your computer for DTC codes, which will immediately identify the troubled components.
Hope this helps...
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Posted on Nov 13, 2009
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Posted on Jan 02, 2017
Turning the wheel back and forth only makes the power steering system work hard when the vehicle is stationary. It should not void warrenty. It can not harm the transmission or engine as they are completely sepperate systems. If a steering joint came appart and started phisically damaging your transmission you would hear it or feel it itn the steering. It should be quite noticable - and very unlikely. It sounds like your engine may have intermittent rough running issues. If your engine is running rough that may cause your transmission to act differently, possibly slowing the shift into gear. The engine computor should see this and store a code that the dealer or most shops should be able to read. If no code yet you may have to wait for it to get a little worse. If your warrenty is about to expire get a general inspection done at a different shop a few months before. Take any finding to the dealer so you are sure to cash in on all issues covered by warrenty.
Posted on Nov 01, 2009
Ok, while turning the steering wheel while stationary is not abuse it could cause the pump to exceed its range limits set by the factory. If you think about it you turn your wheel while stationary all the time, while parked or getting parked. I do not know of anything that could cause transmission damage from doing this action. What it sounds like to me is your power steering pump is damaged causing your engine to idle lower than normal which would cause all of the issues your having currently. You need to somehow get them to replace the pump and I believe your problems will go away after that. As for the warranty as I said before it is normal wear and tear, even though you may have forced the issue doing it so many times. You could have caused a flat spot on your tires which can cause a rough feeling when driving. This will eventually go away. I hope this helps.
Posted on Nov 04, 2009
A. "staionary Steering", as you call it, is undesirable in that it wears the tire tread, stresses the tire casings and strains all steering parts. It is best to let the car creep a bit while turning the steering wheel.
B. All parts of the car are strong enough to survive your actions.
C. The symptoms you describe sound like the Fuel Injection/Emissions Feedback loop is out of range, resulting in poor idle quality and take off.
The system "learns" how you drive and adjusts itself within it's defined parameters to suit what you demand of it. You may be able to reset it by disconnecting the battery negative cable for a few minutes. Only do so if your have the alarm and radio codes and know how to restore the radio and clock settings.
D. Your drivability complaints should be covered under your new car warranty. Return to the dealer and do not settle for unsatifactory service.
Ask your dealer to check for Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) covering your complaints.
The manufacturer pays the dealer for warranty work, they ought to welcome you.
Posted on Nov 08, 2009
first off you have done nothing wrong especially with a 2009. your next step is to get the honda field rep involved and perhaps he can get something done for you. do not take what the service writer tells you as gospel. if you beleive there is something wrong, there might be. consider also you getting used to a new vehicle and perhaps a new brand. you have not voided the warranty. look in your owners manual and it should have numbers to contact honda of north america. get the dealer to step and take you serious!!
Posted on Nov 08, 2009
In my experience the steering issue is unrelated to your car sputtering.
#1 Sputtering is the result of engine misfires, poor or improper fuel delivery, and/or inadequate air delivery. Hesitation and noises at standard shift points (ie: 3500+ RPM depending on how heavy your foot is) is a side effect of a faulty transmission, or transmission components (solenoids, torque converters, gears, etc.)
#2 Turing your stering wheel while the car is stationary will not damage your vehicle. The stering wheel system in your car is as you mentioned power assisted. The rack and pinion (steering gear) actually performs the function of moving the wheels. The system is pressure lubricated by the power steering pump via high pressure lines. Air in the system may damage the rack, but is more likely to damage your pump fist. Difficulty turning the steering wheel on a vehicle equipped with power steering can be the result of a damaged steering gear (rack and pinion), A damaged rack is unlikely unless the car was in a collision, or the car was run for an extended duration of time with no power steering fluid. The latter is less likely because the sound of a dry pump would be obvious and extremely noticable.
#3 You should take your vehicle to another dealer and start keeping documents provided by the dealer follwoing inspection or service. The dealer must honor their warranty, as a contractual agreement. I am not sure what state you reside in but, you could qualify for vehicle replacement under some states lemon law provisions. Google lemon law to learn the steps you can take if you feel like your brand new car may qualify.
Posted on Nov 13, 2009
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