1999 Suzuki Vitara
Problem for Suzuki 1999 Vitara

Brake juddering, failure: ABS or master cylinder, or anything els




By tl5612 on Nov 11, 2009

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Car occasionally suffers form brake juddering/failure (during a sudden brake: the brake pedal can sometimes, mid-pump, vibrate and lose all power and tension- sort of dropping to the floor)- requiring immeidate second pump in order to brake porperly.

Discs, pads are new. Calipers are ok. Fluid is new.

I have been told it could be the brake master cylinder, but this problem happens at the start of a journey just as frequently as at the end of a long journey- so perhaps no overheating problem. Or could there be something else?

Perhaps the more likely problem is the ABS. I haven't noticed the light go on ever, but it is exactly obsucred from my sight whilst driving by the steering wheel (annoyingly). And, when the brakes fail, for that split second I'm more concerned about not crashing into a car head-on than looking at the dashboard. So might have missed it. When the car starts up, all is fine- the ABS light pops on and then off.

What could the problem be, how should I get it diagnosed (is this even possible, or is it just guess work) and how much might it cost to fix.

I suppose my main concern, is a precise diagnosis. Can this be done. A mechanic did tell me, that it is very diffiicult to know until the whole system fails (scaremongering?!). And he said it would be very expensive.

But if it was just a dirty sensor, is there any way of telling this? Or do I just have to wait until it does/doesn't happen again.

Also. The car failed an MOT 5 months ago for brake juddering. £200 solution- new discs and pads = no solution at all.

Thanks
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Nov 11, 2009

- so you have seen this problem before? the garage i went to said that because my car is japanese it might not work with their computer (lets assume it won't), and so they would do a manual check of the seals etc. does this sound right? should I ask them to bleed the abs and then the brakes? . . . it's pretty difficult to know what to do. As I'm sure that they will charge me a fortune and prob won't even fix the problem.

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posted on Nov 11, 2009
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nuckle bustr

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Rating: 88%, 132 votes
i would say have your abs system bled. this only requires a computer and someone who knows how to use it. after bleeding the abs then the rest of the system should be bled. if you had a bad secer it would set what is known as a hard code and the light would always stay on.
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Nov 11, 2009

- a secer is my bad spelling of sencor. often bleeding the abs system will cure the problem. i would avoid driving the car until repaired
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" thanks! . . ."if you had a bad secer..." what is a "secer"? -so what do you think the problem is, or will bleeding the abs diagnose the problem? " - tl5612

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