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I replaced the rear brake lines on a Kia Sedona after they leaked. The rear lines were bled (twice), but the brake pedal is still soft. Do I need to bleed the Master cylinder to get a firmer brake pedal? Do you just pull the line off the master cylinder and bleed, then re-bleed the rears again? Could it be air in the front lines also?? Thanks in advance

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Good! You bled the master cyl. before installation! The proper order of bleeding the lines, is to start with the wheel the greatest distance from the master cylinder. Then work your way to the next greatest distance, and last, the closest wheel. Make sure all air is removed from the lines before you proceed to the next wheel, and frequently check the master cyl. level, because, as I'm sure you know, if you **** in air at the master, you have to start all over again. I'm assuming you don't have a power bleeder, so with a helper do this with car running (make sure it's on safety stands and not going to fall on you!) Pump pedal 3 times, no need to mash the pedal into the floor, just 3 pumps 1/2 way down, hold 3rd pump at half way down level while bleeder is opened, when flow is about to stop at bleeder, close bleeder and repeat til no evidence of any air. Let me know how it goes and if you need any help.

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pull your rear drums and inspect the shoes,you may have too addjust them out by hand too get the peddle you want

Posted on Mar 15, 2009

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MAKE SURE THE ARE NO OTHER LEAKS.IF U DID NOT BENCH BLEED THE MASTER CYLINDER BEFORE U PUT IT ON U PROBLEBLY HAVE AIR IN THE SYSTEM.BLEED THE MASTER CYLINDER AT THE LINES THAT COME OFF OF IT.THEN U NEED TO BLEED THE REAT OF THE BRAKES IN THIS ORDER.RIGHT REAR,LEFT FRONT,LEFT REAR.RIGHT FRONT.WHEN BLEEDING THE BRAKES WAIT 15 SECONDS BETWEEN PUMPS OF THE BRAKE PEDAL.IF U GO TO FAST U CAN DAMAGE THE MASTER CYLINDER.GOOD LUCK

Posted on May 01, 2009

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SOURCE: Spongy brakes after bleeding them 2 times. Should I try to bleed the master cylinder or replace it?

Honestly your guess is as good as mine. But I don't think the master cylinder is NOT bad you still have air in the system. Get a big bottle of brake fluid bleed all four sides until you run out of fluid or your brakes work properly. You should divide the bottle's content in four, then use each quantity in each side. You'll be removing air and contaminated fluid from the system. Get a small hose that fits on the bleeders and an appropriate container. I have a good feeling if you do this your brakes will work just fine. I don't know how you are bleeding the brakes. I'll let you know the proper way just in case. This is a two man job, with the wheel off, have someone start the car. Have them pump the brakes a few times to get pressure. 1With the brake pedal UP open the bleeder, 2then have your assistant press the brake pedal all the way down and leave it completely pressed down. 3Close the bleeder valve, once close and only with the valve closed have'm release the brake. Repeat as necessary, bake depressed, open valve first then press brake. DO NOT depress until valve completly closed. Close valve THEN depress. Good Luck!

Posted on May 15, 2009

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