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Headlight switch does not turn on headlights. High beam can be turned on with hi/lo lever switch. No voltage at headlamp connector. Swapping headlight relays did not help. BCM was replaced last year.

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Turn signal switch has likely failed.

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2007 chev sub head lights wont turn on


Do you know anything about automotive electronics ? Electronic control modules .
Headlamp ON/OFF control is determined by the body control module (BCM) by a signal on the headlamp switch on input circuit when the headlamp switch is in the HEAD position. When the headlamp switch is in the AUTO position, the BCM determines headlamps ON/OFF by the voltage from the ambient light sensor.
If the headlight switch is left in the ON position, the inadvertent power control feature will turn OFF the headlights approximately 10 minutes after the ignition switch is turned to the OFF position. If the driver places the headlight switch in the ON position after the ignition switch has been turned OFF, or if the ignition switch is in the ACCY position, the headlights will remain ON until turned OFF or the battery runs dead.
The high beam indicator is illuminated when the instrument cluster receives a GMLAN serial data message from the BCM that the high beams are illuminated.
High Beams
The high beam headlamps receive voltage from the headlamp high relay located in the underhood fuse block. The BCM controls the relay on the headlamp high beam relay control circuit. High beam control is determined by a signal on the headlamp dimmer switch signal circuit from the multifunction switch. When the headlamp dimmer switch signal circuit is grounded, the BCM grounds the headlamp high beam relay control circuit, illuminating the high beam headlamps. The right and left high beam circuits are independent and are fused independently in the underhood fuse block.
Low Beams - Standard
The low beam headlamps receive voltage from the headlamp low beam relay located in the underhood fuse block. The BCM controls the relay on the headlamp low beam relay control circuit. Low beam control is determined by a signal on the headlamp dimmer switch signal circuit from the multifunction switch. When the headlamp dimmer switch signal circuit is open, the BCM grounds the headlamp low beam relay control circuit, illuminating the low beam headlamps. The right and left low beam circuits are independent are fused independently in the underhood fuse block.

Hooking up a factory scan tool an checking DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes would be the very first step in trouble shooting this problem .
DTC B257A 00: Headlamp Switch Input Signal Mismatch
DTC 2575 00: Headlamp Control Circuit

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2008 ford ranger headlight relay bad? Lamps do not light up, checked BULBS..OK no left highbeam Left and right lamp fuses ok and hi/lo 30a fuse ok


Did you check the fuse circuit for voltage, use a testlite or something.
I posted part of headlamp wiring. You understand your dimmer switch is involved in the circuits.
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Right low beam headlight does not come on but my right turn signal will stay even tho i diddnt turn it on. If I cut on my high beams the rurn signal cuts off. Whats wrong? Helo


It could be the lamp control module !
Headlamps
Battery positive voltage (B+) is applied at all times to the lamp control module (LCM) through the underhood fuse block HDLP fuse.
When you place the headlamp switch in the HEAD position, the headlamps input to the LCM is grounded. The LCM then applies battery positive voltage (B+) through the underhood fuse block HDLOBML fuse and HDLOBMR fuse, which feed the left low beam headlamp and the right low beam headlamp respectively. When you activate the headlamp dimmer switch by pulling on the multifunction lever until the switch clicks, the high beam input circuit to the LCM in grounded . The LCM then removes battery positive voltage (B+) from the low beam headlamps and supplies battery positive voltage (B+) through the underhood fuse block HDHIBML fuse and HDHIBMR fuse, which feed the left high beam headlamp and the right high beam headlamp respectively.
Check this fuse in the left under hood fuse box first. HDLOBMR Fuse 18 10 Amp. RH Low Beam Headlamp . If the fuse is good check for B+ voltage with the low beams on . Use a test light or volt meter . If you look on top of fuse there are two metal tabs ,check there for B+ voltage , If no B+ voltage the LCM - lamp control module isn't supplying any .
Lamp Control Module (LCM)
Under the left side of the IP, to the right of the steering column
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Under the left side of the IP, to the right of the steering column
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In the left front of the passenger compartment, in the steering column

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98 cad deville headlights stay on headlight & twilight sentinel switch is off along with the ign. i'm stumped can you help. Ted


Did you check the high/ low beam headlamp relay ? Stuck contacts in side relay .Plus headlamp relay an DRL relay .All are located in the underhood relay center .
The headlamps are controlled by the body control module (PZM). The battery positive voltage (B+) is applied at all times through the HDLPS fuse at the switch side of the headlamp relay via CKT 340 (ORN).
Battery positive voltage (B+) is also applied at all times through the RADIO/PHONE fuse to the coil side of the high/low beam headlight relay via CKT 40 (ORN/BLK). Both relays are controlled by the PZM at separate output cavities.

When the headlamp switch is in the HEAD position, the instrument cluster headlamp switch input is grounded through CKT 10 (YEL) and the headlamp switch. The instrument cluster sends a request through the Class 2 serial data line to the BCM in order to active the low beam headlamps. The BCM supplies positive battery voltage (B +) to the coil side of the headlamp relay via CKT 352 (WHT). The coil receives ground through the headlamp switch via CKT 10 (YEL). The coil of the headlamp relay is then energized, closing the switch contacts. Battery positive voltage (B +) is then applied through the high/low beam headlamp relay via CKT 1346 (LT BLU) and the L HDLP LO fuse and R HDLP LO fuse via CKT 12 (TAN) to the left and the right low beam headlamps respectively.
This may sound pretty complex .
1
Was the Headlights System Check performed?
--
YES - Go to Step 2
NO - Go to Headlight System Check
2
Are the park lamps also on?
--
YES - Go to Step 3
NO - Go to Step 13
3
Connect a Scan Tool to the data link connector (DLC).
Inspect the IPC headlamp switch input.
Does the headlamp switch operate properly?
--
YES - Go to Step 4
NO - Go to Step 10
4
Disconnect the instrument cluster (IPC) connector C3.
Do the headlamps and park lamps turn off?
--
YES - Go to Step 5
NO - Go to Step 6
5
Replace the instrument cluster (IPC). Refer to Instrument Cluster Replacement in Instrument Panel, Gauges and Console.
Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check
Is the repair complete?

6
Disconnect the body control module (PZM) connector C2.
Do the headlamps and park lamps turn off?
--
Go to Step 7
Go to Step 8
7
Replace the body control module (PZM). Refer to Body Control Module Replacement in Body Control System.
Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check
--

Your best bet is to take it to the dealer .

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All of my running lights and blinkers work and high beams but no low beams on my 1997 Chevrolet TahoeA


Headlamps Inoperative - Low Beams

Step

Action

Value(s)

Yes

No

DEFINITION: This diagnostic procedure should only be used if the high beam headlamps are operating properly and the low beams are inoperative.

1

Did you perform the Headlights System Check?
--
Go to Step 2
Go to Headlight System Check

2

  1. Turn the headlamp and panel dimmer switch to the ON position.
  2. Move the headlamp dimmer switch to the LOW position.
  3. Backprobe the headlamp dimmer switch connector with a J 35616-200 from cavity A to ground.

Does the test lamp light?
--
Go to Step 3
Go to Step 5

3

  1. Remove the daytime running lamp relay.
  2. Connect a J 35616-200 at cavity G5 to ground.

Does the test lamp light?
--
Go to Step 4
Go to Step 6

4

  1. Re-install the daytime running lamp relay.
  2. Backprobe cavity B at the high/low beam headlamp with the headlamp dimmer switch in the LOW position.

Does the test lamp light?
--
Go to Step 7
Go to Step 8

5

Replace the headlamp dimmer switch.

Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check
--

6

Repair the open in CKT 359 (PPL) between the headlamp dimmer switch and the daytime running lamp relay.

Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check
--

7

Replace the high/low beam headlamps.

Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check
--

8

  1. Inspect for an open in CKT 12 (TAN) between the daytime running lamp relay and S120, repair as necessary.
  2. Replace the daytime running lamp relay if no open was found in CKT 12 (TAN) between the daytime running lamp relay and S120.

Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check
--

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Lo beam headlight on right side not working.


try using a voltmeter on the plug for the bad headlight. turn on the ignition, and turn the headlight switch. If the voltmeter shows no voltage, then either your switch or the wiring leading to the headlight has gone bad. check wiring for breaks to headlight first. good-day! if no voltage.

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The switch is bad >
Each headlamp is individually fused so that battery voltage is applied to the individual lamps at all times through circuit 1640 for the LH headlamps and through circuit 1740 for the RH headlamps. When the headlamp switch is in HEAD, the ground is applied directly to headlamp switch through circuit 1750. When the headlamp switch is placed in LOW, ground is applied to the low beam headlamps through circuit 1201. When the headlamp switch is placed in HIGH, ground is applied to the high beam lamps and to the high beam indicator through circuit 1200. The high beam indicator is fused so that battery voltage is applied at all times through circuit 640.

The box you hear the click in is the daytime running lights control module .
Do you know how to do electrical testing using a DVOM- digital volt ohm meter or a test light ?

Low and High Beams Headlamps Inoperative
Step
Action
Value(s)
Yes
No
1
Was the headlight system check performed?
--
YES - Go to Step 2
NO - Go to Headlight System Check
2
Does flash to pass function normally in the headlight system check?
--
YES - Go to Step 3
NO - Go to Step 7
3
Does the autolamps low and high beam operate normally?
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YES - Go to Step 4
NO - Go to Step 6
4
Turn the headlamp switch to the Head position and the headlamp dimmer switch to Low position.
Using a test lamp, backprobe between connector C201 terminal W and ground.
Is the test lamp on?
--
YES - Go to Step 5
NO - Go to Step 6
5
Repair poor connection or open in circuit 1750 between connector C201 terminal W and S283.
Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check
--
6
Replace the headlamp switch. Refer to Multifunction Turn Signal Lever Replacement - On Vehicle for service procedure.
Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check
7
Repair poor connection or open in circuit 1750 between S283 and ground.
Is the repair complete?
--
Go to Headlight System Check

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Headlights not working


Not a fuse problem , same fuse power's low an high beams . Looking at wiring diagrams an using a DVOM - digital volt ohm meter to test the electrical circuit's is the way to find the problem . The light's staying on for 3 or 4 min's. is a function of the BCM - body control module ! Do you know anything about automotive electrical testing ? Do you know what a wiring diagram is an how to read one . Free wiring diagrams here http://www.bbbind.com/free_tsb.html Enter vehicle info. Year , make , model an engine size . Under system click on lighting ,then under subsystem click on headlamps .Click the search button then the blue link. get yourself a cheap DVOM an test the electrical circuit's , this is how electrical problems are solved .
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Plus reading factory service repair info for how it should work would be a good idea .

Headlamps
The headlamps may be turned on two different ways. First, when the driver places the headlamp switch in the HEADLAMP position, for normal operation. Second, with the headlamp switch placed in the OFF position, for automatic lamp control (ALC). During ALC, the headlamps will be in day time running lamp (DRL) operation in daylight conditions, or low beam operation in low light conditions. The LH HDLPand RH HDLP fuses, supply battery positive voltage from the underhood junction block to the left and right headlamps. The circuit continues through both low and high beam lamps, then back to the underhood junction block. The low beam and high beam circuits continue to the headlamp switch. The low beam and high beam circuits also provide the body control module (BCM) with both low and high beam inputs. The headlamp switch includes the dimmer switch and the flash-to-pass switch. When the headlamp switch is placed in the HEADLAMP position a path to ground is provided. Ground is provided at G201. Depending on the position of the high/low beam switch, either the low or high beam circuit will now have power and ground.
The LH HDLP fuse in the underhood junction block, supplies battery positive voltage to the automatic lamp control (ALC) headlamp relay coil circuit. The ALC relay switch circuit is connected to the low beam circuit at the headlamp switch. When the headlamp switch is placed in the OFF position, the BCM will automatically turn on the low beams in low light conditions. The BCM energizes the ALC relay, closing the switch contacts and grounding the low beam circuit. Ground is provided at G201. With the headlights in the low beam position, the high beams may be momentarily turned on or flashed with the dimmer switch handle. The flash-to-pass feature is accomplished by pulling the dimmer switch handle toward the driver. The headlights may be switched to high beam with the opposite movement of the dimmer switch lever. When the headlamp dimmer switch handle is pulled toward the driver, the flash-to-pass switch closes grounding the high beam circuit. Ground is provided at G201. Both high beams will remain on until the driver releases the switch handle.
If the driver places the headlight switch in the HEADLAMP position , the headlights will remain on until turned off or the battery runs dead.
Do you know what a factory diagnostic trouble shooting chart is ?

Headlamps Inoperative - Low Beams

Step
Action
Yes
No
Schematic Reference: Headlights/Daytime Running Lights (DRL) Schematics
1
Did you perform the Lighting System Diagnostic System Check?
YES - Go to Step 2
NO - Go to Diagnostic System Check - Lighting Systems
2
Place the headlamp switch in the HEADLAMP position.
Place the headlamp dimmer switch in the LOW position.
Do the low beam headlamps illuminate?
YES - Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems
NO - Go to Step 3
3
Disconnect the turn/headlamp wiper switch assembly connector C2.
Connect a 15 amp fused jumper between the headlamp low beam signal circuit and a good ground.
Do the low beam headlamps illuminate?
YES - Go to Step 4
NO - Go to Step 5
4
Inspect for poor connections at the harness connector of the turn/headlamp wiper switch assembly. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections and Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
YES - Go to Step 7
NO - Go to Step 6
5
Repair an open or high resistance in the headlamp low beam signal circuit. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
YES - Did you complete the repair?
NO - Go to Step 7
--
6
Replace the turn/headlamp wiper switch assembly. Refer to Multifunction Turn Signal Lever Replacement - On Vehicle in Steering Wheel and Column.
Did you complete the replacement?
Go to Step 7
--
7
Operate the system in order to verify the repair.
Did you correct the condition?
YES - System OK
NO - Go to Step 3

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Where are the Headlight relays on 2002 Renault clio


The headlamp circuit is rather simple. From the 15 amp RH headlamp fuse, there is a red w/yellow trace that goes to the RH high beam. Out of the 15 amp LH headlamp fuse, the wire going to the LH Hi beam is solid red. Both of these wires should have power when the headlamp relay is energized. The wires from the Hi Beam bulbs going back to the switch should both be red w/black trace. The wire going from the headlamp relay to power the 2 15 amp fuses is white. The headlamp switch applies a ground to illuminate either the Lo Beams or the Hi Beams.

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I have a 1998 Chevrolet K2500 that the headlights are not working correctly on. When I turn the headlights on nothing comes on unless I turn on the high beams, only the high beams are on, no low beams. ...


Somehow the tan wire from the low beams has been cut from the hi/lo switch and is now attached to the brown wire from the headlight switch. Trace the tan wire from the headlights to the hi/lo switch to see what happened.

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