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**** main seal removal

I got everything out of the way and now am having a problem removing the rear main seal from the engine does anybody know any tips or tricks please let me know....

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  • rivgritty Sep 11, 2009

    i have already removed it, the thing is how do i get the old seal to pop out or come out from its place.

  • rivgritty Sep 12, 2009

    where could you rent such a specialty tool like that??

  • rivgritty Sep 12, 2009

    L.O.L. you know what i did and didnt even think about, i just removed the plate the rear main seal was in it's self, l.o.l. i dont know if most engines are like that but it was way easyer then having to try to pry it out of there all i did was pop off the plate pop out the rear main seal clean the plate up oil the new seal installed as told and slid it right over the end of the cam shaft put some copper gasket seal and done easy as pie. now to put the rest of it back together is going to be fun.. thank for all the help and i will definitely use this site again in the future for more advice.

  • rivgritty Sep 13, 2009

    THANK YOU

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I've replaced other oil seals. I have used a small Allen key. Holding the Allen key with pliers and using it to hook the inside of the seal to pull it out. My first time replacing an oil seal I bent the new seal when I tried to install it and had to go buy another one.

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If the seal is one piece, the flywheel (manual t.) or flex plate (automatic) must be removed.

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  • drallim Sep 11, 2009

    One way to remove the seal is to drop the oil pan and loosen the rear main bearing. That's a lot of extra work though. Another way is to rent a seal removal tool which has a hook-like tooth that slides next to the crankshaft into the seal lip. The other end of the tool has a right angle piece that is hammered on to pull the seal. Using makeshift devices can damage the seal surface of the crankshaft, so be careful if you improvise.

  • drallim Sep 12, 2009

    I bought mine from a MAC tool truck many years ago. Check with AutoZone or other such businesses. Shucks auto parts rents tools like this in my area of the country. It may be as cheap to buy one as to rent it.

  • drallim Sep 12, 2009

    Good to know that you solved your own problem--congratulations.

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Fig. 2: Removing the rear main seal 85553307.gif
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