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My 93 olds bravada leaks water out the rear underneath engine when I put water in. Is this a freeze plug or cracked block

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You have to get underneath with a work light. Usually leaks from freeze plugs or cracked blocks happen after the outside temp drops below freezing. Those 4.3 L V6 engines are known for blown headgaskets. Do a compression test to be sure. You can also buy leak detector dye from auto parts stores but you would need to use a black light or at least a flourescent light.

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You need to check your radiator hoses, water pump seal to see if it is good and then check your thermastat seal.

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First do a presure test on the radiator with fluid in and see where the water is coming out from may be it is just a hose gone bad.
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