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Brake pedal is high and firm but brakes don't stop you quickly wh

1997 Dodge Grand caravan 187K
Removed rear drum. Drum has uniform ridges on it. Should be turned. Shoes have about 10K to 20K left on them. Brakes shoes are adjusted up to the drum. The bottom 1/3 of the shoe looks and feels like its not contacting the drum when the brakes are applied. Not sure if shoes are glazed but I think they look like there not. When you "stand on" the brakes at low speed the van stops slower than it should. It doesn't throw you forward and squat down like I think it should. Any thoughts on why the whole shoe isn't on the drum when the brakes are applied? I haven't looked at the front discs yet and maybe my problem is there.

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You should have a equalizer valve on the brake system and could have a problem there. Also could be the master cylinder or Anti-lock system.

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On the drum system one end of the brake shoe acts like a pivot. Have the drums turned for sure. Before you take the drums off, loosen the bleed valve, looks like a grease nipple on the back of the wheel assembly, while someone is depressing the brake pedal. If fluid comes out tight the valve before letting the brake up and do the same on the other side. Then do the fronts. If no fluid comes out then you have an air bubble in your brake line and you need to continue to bleed the lines until fluid comes out. If fluid does come out and no air then you need to replace the master cylinder.

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